[KLUG Advocacy] A User Leaving
Bruce Smith
advocacy@kalamazoolinux.org
11 Jul 2002 08:51:20 -0400
> 1. Distro flopping
>
> He starts out the explanation of his Linux experience with a laundry
> list of distributions he tried. I've noticed that some people seem to
> flop between distros like they flip channels on TV. And these same
> people seem to universally end up frustrated. I just don't get the
> psychology/rational behind this behaviour. Things like "Eventually I
> became dissatisfied with Mandrake," and he moves on to Debian. Why was
> he dissatisfied? Then he compliments Debian on how he gets to get his
> hands dirty and learns alot. Then he is frustrated with Debian, and
> between the stable/unstable versions. Huh? So he goes on the Mandrake
> 8.1.... I don't get it.
Since I keep a wide variety of distros for sale at KLUG meetings, I
occasionally play around with them on a spare PC. I can see where this
would get very frustrating if I wasn't playing, and planned on actually
using them. There are enough differences to make this a pain.
> 2. X11
>
> "My experience with X is that it's too big, bloated, slow and unstable
> to be any good to the home user."
>
> Is this a general experience? He later states how snappy things like
> window moves are on XP. I use X remotely at home and on an 'old' box
> and home and *never* wait for widgets to paint, etc... So I just
> haven't experience this.
The ONLY time I've ever seen X run slow on Linux is when running a video
card in unaccelerated mode. That happened occasionally when a new
chipset comes out and the drives are being developed. That would be my
only _guess_ about his experience of slowness.
That's also easy to remedy by spending <$50 on a supported video card.
> "Most crashes that I ever experienced with Linux have been X's fault. My
> servers don't run X, and they never crash."
That USED TO BE true, but I can't remember the last time I've had a X
crash. It's literally been years for me.
> This is true. But video drivers make the same rule apply to M$, but
> there I can't turn them off.
Right.
> "Fonts are truly awful under X."
>
> The font mechanism is a pain. But I think he left Linux must a little
> too soon in this case. Real solutions are almost at this end of the
> pipe.
M$, and many web developers, are also to blame. Since M$ supplies
PROPRIETARY fonts on Windows, and may web designers use those fonts,
many web pages look like crap on Linux. Manually adding those fonts to
a Linux install can be a minor pain (it used to be a REAL pain).
> 3. Drivers.
>
> Driver support can be a problem. But most devices I've used "just
> work". I haven't recompiled a kernel is almost a year.
Right, he must be using some really non-standard hardware for this to be
the case. Redhat and most other distros supply drivers for just about
all hardware.
> 4. Hardware setup
>
> He seems to think this works pretty good, and I concur. RedHat
> automatically does the IDE-CDRW + SCSI module loading, or did on a box
> I used. His "It's an IDE device, it's not that complicated!" comment is
> a gross over simplification.
Redhat seems to setup a CDRW drive fine during install (as do many other
distros). The problem I've seen is Redhat doesn't handle it very well
if a CDRW drive is added to a existing installation. Recently I had to
talk Mr. DNS through changing his grub.conf file after he added an IDE
CDRW drive on Redhat 7.3.
> The tools for making CDs do such however.
No comment, I still use the command line. :-)
> 5. Software distribution.
>
> He didn't look very hard for a solution to this problem. GnoRPM,
> red-carpet, etc... I don't see how it can get easier than red-carpet.
For sure!
> 6. Support
>
> Silly. You want to avoid jerks, immigrate to Antarctica. I somehow am
> confident he isn't active in any political or religious organs. This
> kind of drivel annoys me.
He could have purchased supported from Redhat, and many other places.
And that would probably be cheaper than M$ support. Ever call the M$
900 number for support and pay big bucks while on hold waiting for the
next available idiot? (I haven't either, but I've heard stories. :)
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Bruce Smith bruce@armintl.com
System Administrator / Network Administrator
Armstrong International, Inc.
Three Rivers, Michigan 49093 USA
http://www.armstrong-intl.com/
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