[KLUG Members] debian install

Patrick Stockton members@kalamazoolinux.org
Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:56:16 -0400


Okey, Debian is sucesfully installed on my machine (amazing what you can do
with two floppies and a cable modem).

Now I'm trying to install Ximian Gnome and every time I do it gives me a
"source file is invalid unable to parse" error (i appologize but i'm sending
this from work and my machine is at home so the error message is not
verbatium).

I'm assuming this has to do with the debian packager...but I'm not too
familar with where to look.

I've installed just a bare bones system.  Basically gotten X and the network
running.  I figure I'd let apt-get do the rest.

Any idea for you Debian users what the problem with the Ximian install is?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie McCarthy" <jamie@mccarthy.vg>
To: <members@kalamazoolinux.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: [KLUG Members] debian install


> codejnki@earthlink.net (Patrick Stockton) writes:
>
> > I've decided to give Debian a try after upgrading to Slackware 8.0
> > and running in to some compatability problems.
>
> Welcome to the club :)
>
> > Yesterday I downloaded from FTP the latest stable package sets and
> > was going to attempt an installation today.  The idea is that I'll
> > just create a boot floppy and install from a second partition.
> > Don't hae a CD-Burner other wise I'd do it the ISO way.
>
> I've got a set of 2.2r3 CDs with Reiser built into the kernel, if
> you want to give Reiser a try.  My plain-ordinary 2.2r3 CDs are
> sitting on top of my server in another city right now or I'd offer
> those...
>
> > Anybody have any expierance doing it this way?  Tips, suggestions,
> > things to watch out for would be greatly appreciated.
>
> My general advice is to install as little as possible in the "first
> pass," be it from CD, FTP, or whatever.  Just set up a bare-bones
> system.  The really nice thing about Debian is that it's soooo easy
> to install new packages.  Want to play around with grip?  As root,
> "apt-get install grip" does all the work for you -- downloads the
> package and any other packages it needs that you don't already have
> installed, checks for conflicts, installs them all, and does it all
> in the right order.
>
> My other general advice is the same with any new distro.  There will
> be many new things.  Take it slow and take notes for what steps you
> take and any install-decisions you're unsure about whether they're
> correct.  You will probably need or want to go back and reinstall
> later, and if you have a pencil-and-paper trail of breadcrumbs for
> where you've been, you'll know better where you might want to go
> next time!  Assume that you'll be installing several times, possibly
> many times.  Since you'll be wiping those partitions anyway, it
> can't hurt to wipe them 3 or 5 or 10 times for 3 or 5 or 10 installs,
> and you'll gain experience in the process.
>
> It also helps if you have another computer handy to search
> www.google.com/linux and groups.google.com for people who've had
> the same questions as you'll have.
>
> Here are part of my written notes for my last Debian install -- the
> Reiser I mentioned, onto an HP laptop:
>
> * All partitions Reiser (not "notail") except /boot
> * Chose to configure pcmcia, chose i82365.  "An error occurred
>   while trying to load and configure the pcmcia modules."
>   Ditto when retry with tcic.  Why?
> * It thinks my eth0 is a pcmcia device.  Why?
> * Chose MD5 and shadow passwords.
> * "It seems your system doesn't need pcmcia.  It was installed
>   with the rest of the kernel, but can be removed now.  Shall I
>   remove the pcmcia packages?"  Default yes, I said no.
> * C++ Dev, C Dev, Debug, Devel Common, GNOME Apps/Desktop/Net,
>   Laptop, Newbie Help, Omnibook 6000, X both
> * X fonts in 75/100 fpi.  Add rxvt.  Add enlightenment/sawmill.
>   PS/2 mouse.  1024x768 70 Hz, random guesses at video card.
>   Reset touchpad at boot, --tapmode=0.
> * apt-get install:  xserver-mach64, ntpdate, nfs-common, ssh,
>   lsof-2.2, hdparm, kernel-headers-2.4.5, kernel-source-2.4.5
>   (after which ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source* /usr/src/linux),
>   cdparanoia, grip, ncftpget, wget, libexpat, libexpat1-dev
>
> Oh, and a friend just pointed out, a very useful tool for Debian is
> aptitude ("apt-get install aptitude").  It provides a (not very
> good, but passable) text full-screen interface to your list of
> available packages and which ones are installed, and lets you see in
> red, white and green which ones are installed, broken, etc.  So you
> can see, "oh, if I want to install this game, it will need libxyz,
> which conflicts with my already-installed libzyx..." which is pretty
> useful.
> --
>  Jamie McCarthy
>  jamie@mccarthy.vg
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