[KLUG Members] Re: legality

Adam Tauno Williams members@kalamazoolinux.org
Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:14:36 -0400 (EDT)


>>I'm not ignoring that point at all.
>>I would have never known he's serving files to the entire internet
>>because I WOULD NOT HAVE LOOKED!!!
>>Just the action of probing for open ports or services can get you
>>in trouble.
>Er, I understand everyone's fear here.  But I don't think the law
>should have a "0 tolerance policy" on private citizens, especially

Neither do I "think" so.  But that doesn't really matter.  The laws drafted for
the benefit of corporations happen (maybe by accident) to apply to individual's
computers as well.

>since corporations can trash your privacy to the point of what could
>be considered "criminal" level access to your system with various
>backdoors and spyware (despite any click thru you may have agreed
>to).

Caveat Emptor.  The user has tacitally agreed to this.

Whether this is ethical or good for free society is an entirely diffrent topic.

>Because I once also did leave a file in someone's SMB share.  It was
>text file with an appology for accidently tresspassing onto his
>system.  My dynamic DNS hadn't updated, so I could not SSH into his
>box (which I thought was mine).  I then looked at port 139, which
>was open, did a smbclient NetBIOS list and saw some open shares.  I
>left a text file with the appology and said, "sorry I had hit port
>22 on his system, to make it up, I would gladly help him setup a
>firewall," and left my E-mail address.
>I never heard from him.  Maybe I will someday?

Probably not,  and maybe if he did find it he realized you we're just being
helpful.  In certain circumstances I might do the same thing,  and phooeey on
the law.

But the poster asked about legality,  and I don't want any lurker wandering away
thinking that any of this good will, etc... affects "legality",  because it doesn't.

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Morrison Industries
1825 Monroe Ave NW.
Grand Rapids, MI. 49505