[KLUG Members] Question on network monitors (i.e. big brother, etc).

members@kalamazoolinux.org members@kalamazoolinux.org
Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:58:08 +0100 (MET)


With BB, I think we've got it set to have a hair-trigger.  If something goes
purple: it pages us.  If something goes red: it pages us.

It's just a huge pain to have.  For example:  yesterday's snafu was caused
by a frozen server (don't ask me how).  Instead of seeing just one server
dead, it decided to not see all the servers.  Then, for those of you who have
used big  brother, BB says "What happened?  I guess I'll page until I find out".
 All last night, I received pages.  When I was finally able to reboot the
server, BB didn't even tell me that things were okay.  It just stopped paging. 
That's dumb.  

Anyway, isn't MRTG used for bandwidth monitoring?  I've never worked with
setting up monitoring tools before, but I am going to now for sure.

Adam

> >I've got a question.  Currently, my company is running "Big Brother" to
> >watch for connections, etc on my network.  It monitors for http, ftp,
> smtp,
> >ssh, telnet, etc.
> >Big Brother Sucks.
> >It is the bane of my existence, and more often than not, deprives me of
> >sleep for no reason.  I get 99.99999999 percent false positives, it
> freaks
> >out all the time, etc.
> >I need a replacement. A good one. Fast.
> 
> We used BB for some time,  and never got a false positive,  and BB is used
> by MANY agencies so I think you have a problem with your configuration.
> 
> On the other hand we gave up on BB because configuration is a pain,  the
> whole thing is comprised (or *was* comprised to be fair) of a seemling
> disorganized mash of scripts.
> 
> >I'm told about netsaint.  Is this good?  I'm going to set it up tomorrow
> at
> 
> Never used it.
> 
> I always recommend MRTG.
> 
> I'm playing with OpenNMS which is a REAL INDUSTRIAL GRADE package
> requiring a stand alone machine and 256Mb of RAM.  But it appears to be
> able to monitor the number of angels dancing on the head of a pin located
> somwhere over the pacific ocean,  and determine if those angels are
> seraphim, cherubim,  or your common divine-message types.
> 
> >work, but I can't deploy it until I cahnge the minds of the "powers that
> >be".  I'd rather not build one myself from scratch, since that's not very
> >income-producing, and I'd like to not have to de-bug.
> >One thing is for sure: big brother stinks!  If ever there was a boy who
> >cried wolf, this is it.
> >Anyway, I need useable, viable solutions.  I must replace big brother!  I
> >can't be paged every time it loses a packet!  Please!  I'm getting paged
> 
> BB supports two failure phases,  yellow and red (if I recall correctly).
> It should only page on a red condition.  It really sounds like you just
> need to adjust your threshholds.
> 
> >every 5 minutes, folks!  Please save me!  Please use my excessive use of
> >exclaimation points as proof!
> 
> Pager batteries must no last long.... :)
> 
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