[KLUG Members] Re: An off-shoot IPX/SPX question... -- encryption in the networking stack

Bryan J. Smith members@kalamazoolinux.org
10 Dec 2002 17:08:18 -0500


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On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 15:30, Adam Williams wrote:
> You don't need a Netware box as a go between.  The kernel has supported=20
> IPX for some time.

As I mentioned in my other post, there is _0_ encryption at the IPX/SPX
layer in NetWare itself (unless I've missed something).

It's in the session+ layers via the NCP (NetWare Core Protocol) in
NetWare 4+ with RSA encryption.

> I disagree as well,  security updates to Samba occur frequently and=20
> promptly;  and they are really bright guys.  IPX code tends to be less=20
> maintained, and dual stacking inherently adds complexity, which inherentl=
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> effect stability.

Er, you're talking apples-to-oranges here:

                "Windows             Novell
                 Networking"         NetWare
                ------------------   --------------
Session+        SMB                  NCP       <--- Encryption is here
Transport       NetBIOS [over]       SPX [over]
Network         NetBEUI, IP or IPX   IPX or IP

It doesn't matter what you are running underneath, if NetBIOS is being
encapsulated over TCP/IP, IPX, SPX/NCP over TCP/IP, etc...

It's the session and higher layers that do the encryption -- be it
NetWare's RSA, MIT's Kerberos, Microsoft's Kerberos or, optionally,
Samba w/SSL (which Windows client's don't support).


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