[KLUG Members] Oh, the joys of upgrading!

Doc Rea members@kalamazoolinux.org
30 Dec 2002 21:24:32 -0500


On Fri, 2002-12-27 at 01:20, Justin Buist wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 12:56:02AM -0500, Robert G. Brown wrote:
> > 
> > Moving things along to Apache2/PHP, I couldn't help but notice that 
> > expressions like:
> 
> Oh, Crikey.... Apache2 + PHP?
> 
> I got to plan with this recently, as an intern at work is taking a class at 
> WMU is in a class which put this task up as one of their assignments.  When 
> things a bit too much for her to handle she pulled him for a bit of help.  In 
> her defense, she's a CIS major, not a CS one :). 

Justin..don't get me started on this debate ;}


> Once we had Apache2 and PHP installed and everything seemily configured just
> fine a restart of apache left nothing bound to port 80.  Odd.  After
> inspecting the log files Apache2 was segfaulting upon startup!  Nothing out of
> ordinary with the setup either.  I sorta figured this would happen, as last I
> read PHP and Apache2 shouldn't be thrown together in production due to
> threading issues.  A restart or two and it was up and running, but I found
> Apache to segfault on roughtly 50% of all startups I tried. 
> 

This happened with a few folks depending on what they had on their
machines prior to this assignment. I had everyone do an Apache source
install. Some folks who had a binary ran into some gotchas if they
hadn't cleaned up beforehand.

> I didn't do any real digging into it, as everything I know says that Apache2
> vs Apache1 on Linux is only marginally more efficient.  That, and a large
> majority of add-on modules still aren't quite working with Apache2 gives me no
> reason to even think about doing anything with it other than just playing
> around.  We were using the most current Apache2 at the time, as well as the
> most current PHP on a Redhat 7.3 box.  I would assume this would be stable,
> but it wasn't.  Well, I would assume it's would be the most stable of any
> combination out there.  I knew better than that though.

Modules are definitely not quite there in Apache 2 for sure, but they
will be.

> 
> Rob, I don't know the answer to your question (obvious by now) -- but have
> have the threading issues in PHP been properly worked out yet?  I tried this
> just 3 weeks ago and ran into the above problems.
> 
> Justin Buist

I haven't had any problems with Apache 2.0.43 and PHP 4.3.0, but the
server isn't doing much but running development stuff I'm working on.

> 
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