[KLUG Members] KLUG Meeting Notes - 11/05/2002
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Thu, 07 Nov 2002 05:04:20 -0500
KALAMAZOO LINUX USER'S GROUP
MEMBERS AND GUESTS - COME JOIN US FOR A MEETING!!!
http://kalamazoolinux.org/meetings
WE MEET WEEKLY, EACH TUESDAY AT 7:00PM.
Our meeting site is the Kalamazoo Chamber
of Commerce office building downtown.
346 W. Michigan Ave. - Kalamazoo, MI 49007
http://kazoolug.org/meetings/maps.php3 <=== MAP!
Tuesday November 5, 2002 7:00PM
KLUG Meeting Notes - Summary
I. PRESENTATION RECAP
II. NEXT WEEK'S MEETING INFO <=== Beginner's Meeting!
III. PROJECT REPORTS
IV. GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS
Tonight's Meeting Moderator:
KLUG Chairperson Dirk Bartley
I. PRESENTATION RECAP
THIS WEEK'S KLUG PRESENTATION: (19 active KLUG participants)
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Halloween Party: Geek Jeopardy!!!
by Adam Williams assisted by Brian Ritz
Come join KLUG for it's annual Halloween party, this year
including Open Source jeopardy!!! Prizes, Trivia, and Food!
This years topics: Geek Cinema, CPU Architecures, YRO,
Redmond, LDAP, Samba, X11, Slang, XML, CLI, "Things that
spin", and "RFC Potpurri"
GEEK JEOPARDY SUMMARY:
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Brain and Adam put on a very nice evening of fun and laughter
with an excellent, and well presented, display of Geek Jeopardy.
Brian used a cleverly devised spreadsheet done in OpenOffice v1.01
to project the scoring and question catagories/values up on the
screen. Of course, he used a Linux OS based laptop and everything
worked perfectly. The positive scores were calculated in the top
and the negative scores were in the bottom. The top and bottom
were even color coded in green and red. VERY NICE APPLICATION!
Adam had 120 questions that ranged in value from 2 Bytes to 1024
Bytes, in a doubling value order. 2-4-8-16-32-64-128-256-512-1024
The twelve categories were as listed above and the questions had
from howling laughter to puzzled looks in width. In depth, we had
some extremely hard questions and very bright member teams.
TEAM A - Bruce Smith & John Bridleman!
TEAM B - Wes Leonard & Andrew Thompson!
TEAM C - Robert G. Brown & Peter Buxton!
TEAM D - Stu Gillis and Dirk Bartley!
The rest of the attendees sat with the teams and called out answers
occasionally for the team they supported. Some just sat back and
watched the show unfold before them. John Bridleman had brought
the quiz bowl electronic devices that are used for educational
training from a school he is affiliated with. They worked great
and Brian ran these electronics. The lights and buzzers added to
the excitement and you really had to be present to feel the energy.
One can't say enough about the great questions that Adam created.
You try to come with 120 questions and answers for twelve
categories and see how hard it is. HE DID GREAT!!! The favorite
category was Geek Cinema! That went first. Bruce Smith, who
had been sand bagging in the initial questions being shy, went on
his annual run of the 1024 byte (1K) questions across the categories.
Last year he did the same tricky stunt... to the delight of the
other strategists. Clever!!! Only two of those were answered!
Peter Buxton got the first 1K score from the Geek Cinema list.
Bruce Smith scored the ONLY other one with a SAMBA question with
the answer... "What is "Time To Live" (What is TTL?)
The winners got certificates and those that got the 1K answers
won certificates of achievement too! The winning team got a bottle
of COLD Spumante with which to spray foam and celebrate in NASCAR
style if they chose... they did not even crack the cork. We think
they were drinking coffee at 7pm! Typical... At 9pm too!
Food and drinks were in abundance. There were bags of
potato chips, many many many boxes of pizza, gallons of
apple cider, many liters of carbonated beverages, gallons
of spring water, and of course STRONG COFFEE! ;-) The
pizza was eaten with abandon and each piece was devoured
graciously - bite by bite it disappeared.
OK OK OK ! ! ! Who won? Here are the scores...
TEAM A -1196 **************************************************
TEAM B 708 ANDREW THOMPSON AND WES LEONARD GOT THE PRIZES!
TEAM C 118 **************************************************
TEAM D -162
Each of the groups demonstrated strengths and weaknesses in
the various categories. It was an all out battle of the Linux
brain trust from KLUG. Not a dull wit in the crowd this night!
Even though it was Election '02 on this night, people were
hanging around rather late in the party mood and engaging in
discourse. No one seemed concerned about the political
upheavels taking place as a result of the days action at the
polling places.
Adam Williams and Brian Ritz deserve great appreciation.
The pre-event publicity was awesome. Everyone was invited
over and over. When we had the annual KLUG Party cancelled
by a communication problem with the Chamber last week we
worried how the schedule rift would spoil it. Seemed to not
darken the night one bit. Nobody complained and most seemed
glad to be together when ever it worked out. Very positive.
Adam is a network administrator based in Grand Rapids,
but the network he deals with is all over Michigan,
with a couple of hundred workstations, running Linux
and other operating systems. Not only does he deal
with domain issues at work, but he is also the owner of
the domain "whitemice.org". Adam has been a regular
contributor to technical discussions on the main KLUG
mailing list, both presenting and solving some of the
most challenging networking and configuration problems.
Brian Ritz works at UPS and also as a shipping department
specialist at ETMA Supply in Grand Rapids. Brian has been
working with Linux almost exclusively as a user of the
Whitemice.Org network. He holds a degree in Finance from
Grand Valley State University.
NOTE -
* Must come to three meetings to qualify as a full member.
II. NEXT KLUG MEETING - TUESDAY 11/12/2002
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Linux for Beginners
by Dirk Bartley
THE BEGINNER'S MEETINGS ARE HELD the first Tuesday of each
month. Linux basics and distribution installs are the
lessons of these evenings. If you do want KLUG's FREE help
installing Linux on your computer at one of these meetings,
http://kalamazoolinux.org/meetings/installform.html
Contact the KLUG Installmasters for more information:
installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org
- and -
IMPORTANT TO SEE URL: http://kalamazoolinux.org/bsware
Now is the time to get started! Linux is becoming a mainstay
of free software, free choice, dependability and power.
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THE STANDARD KLUG BEGINNER'S PRESENTATION - LINUX BOOT CAMP!!!
http://kalamazoolinux.org/presentations/beginner01.html
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Note:
As Linux matures as an OS, the educational needs are evolving.
The Beginner's Meeting format is changing with those needs.
It is difficult to cover all the basics in one meeting. Linux
is not just for CS experts and IT professionals. The "BASICS"
meetings are intended for those with limited experience with
Operating System's or even Personal Computer's. Your comments
and questions are welcomed!
Dirk Bartley, a WMU graduate, works as a systems
administrator for Schupan Aluminum Sales, a division
of Schupan and Sons. His passion for free software
comes second to spending time with his wife Dawn, an
Upper Peninsula native, and taking Shelly, their
sheltie/terrier mix pound pooch, for a walk. These
interests are only followed by his love of playing
ice hockey.
NOTE -
* Must come to three meetings to qualify as a full member.
III. LINUX OR KLUG RELATED PROJECT REPORTS -
N E W S F L A S H E S ! ! !
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RED HAT LINUX VERSION 8.0.x HAS BEEN RELEASED
Current Linux OS kernel version 2.4.x
o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o
BS-WARE IS AVAILABLE FOR YOU NOW!
VISIT ===> http://kalamazoolinux.org/bsware/
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K L U G O F F I C E R
E L E C T I O N S C O M I N G I N J A N U A R Y !!!
* TUESDAY JANUARY 21ST MEETING *
Nominate KLUG Members for Offices! Participate in the Vote.
http://kalamazoolinux.org/organize - for more info -
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READ EXTREME LINUX NEWS FEED - IT ALMOST HAPPENS HERE
http://slashdot.org
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KLUG HAS ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CHAMBER
of Commerce that includes support of our networking
services. KLUG is entitled to facilities usage,
access to the Jas Network DSL line bandwidth, and
being recognized as an important part of the local
business community. THE CONTRACTS ARE ALL SIGNED!
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MEETING GREETER NEEDED FOR CHAMBER KLUG MEETINGS
Someone to assist with Chamber building access.
For security reasons, KLUG needs entrance and exit
door control. Can you arrive early and leave last?
CONTACT CHAIR DIRK BARTLEY <bartleyd2@net-link.net>
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A FREE 802.11b WIRELESS NETWORK WITH 4 WIRELESS ACCESS
points (WAP) is available within the Chamber building
and is provided by the Dill Companies, Inc. Bring your
wireless cards to KLUG meetings. When a KLUG member
needs to access the internet while downtown, stop in
and park/compute in the Chamber parking lot.
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THIS IS THE WAY TO GET THESE WEEKLY KLUG MEETING NOTES! <--*HEY!*
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MAKE SURE YOU ARE SIGNED UP for the KLUG mailing lists!
Diversified mailing lists can be found on our web site.
http://kalamazoolinux.org/listserv/
Facilitated by - listmaster@kalamazoolinux.org John Bridleman
Currently Available KLUG Lists:
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LIST DESCRIPTION
Members The main KLUG mailing list <--- Weekly Meeting Notes!
Novices A list for Linux beginners to ask questions
Hardware List for hardware discussions
Advocacy Pros & cons of different software
Inschool A list for Linux in schools project
Driftwood KLUG project of constructing a IP PBX
Phpsig Discussion of PHP web programming
Speakers Speakers and presentation topics
LDAPannounce Adam's LDAP related project announcements
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DRIFTWOOD PROJECT FORMS AND LAUNCHES MAILING LIST
A teleconferencing and Linux PC PBX project that
is open to anyone interested and exists to focus on
the open source program Asterisk. Join the Driftwood
mailing list and see what is planned for this hands-on
local project. We might be broadcasting KLUG meetings
on the net and more. * STILL TIME TO GET INVOLVED!!! *
http://kalamazoolinux.org/listserv/listserv.php3
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===> SURPLUS EQUIPMENT DONATIONS ARE NOW BEING ACCEPTED <===
KLUG now has Sec. 501c3 - Charitable Tax Deduction
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KLUG'S 501c3 TAX DEDUCTIBLE STATUS HAS BEEN ATTAINED
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This is a big step forward for KLUG to finally have
attained Non-profit Charitable Organization status.
Now businesses and individuals can contribute hardware,
software, services, cash, membership dues, and other
contributions WITH FULL INCOME TAX DEDUCTIBILITY!!!
There are many OTHER benefits that 'non-profits' enjoy.
CONTACT CHAIR DIRK BARTLEY <bartleyd2@net-link.net>
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NOW YOU CAN USE THE URL HTTP://KAZOOLUG.ORG TO
summon KLUG web pages. Shorter and more exact!
You can still use the longer URL as a valid address!
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LIBRARY DATABASE HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND POSTED
Dirk Bartley has prepared a database to assist you
in locating and requesting KLUG library resources
http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/library/
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KLUG "PC SHOW" PUBLIC OUTREACH PROJECT HAD A SUCCESSFUL EVENT!
The big yellow KLUG banner was again proudly displayed on Sat.
August 31, 2002 at the ALSCS COMPUTER SHOW in KALAMAZOO, MI!
This was an important back-to-school show for this fall season.
This show was again held at the Kalamazoo County Fairgrounds.
Again, lots of Linux CD-ROM's were made available to the public
and many contacts were made. To get more info or to volunteer
to help with the next public event that KLUG has planned, please
Contact KLUG Chairperson "Dirk Bartley" <bartleyd2@net-link.net>
or Vice Chairperson "Stu Gillis" <showperson@kalamazoolinux.org>
BOOGIES CYBER CAFE - KLUG's public commercial Linux project.
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NEWS BULLETIN - BOOGIES HAS BEEN SOLD - AWAITING STATUS INFO
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Boogies is now... "Ali Babba's Hookah Emporium," REALLY!
The Boogies project has been terminated and relocation
options are being considered. We can help create another
cybercafe or do something completely different. Send your
great ideas to "Robert G. Brown" <bob@acm.org> or "Dirk
Bartley" <bartleyd2@net-link.net>.
A KLUG PC RUNNING LINUX HAS BEEN PLACED AT THE KALAMAZOO CHAMBER
of Commerce to provide DHCP services. This will enable easier
internet access for KLUG members attending meetings at the Chamber.
Lots more additions planned between KLUG and K C of C. A newsgroup
server, web server, networking, and eventually EVERYTHING! The
synergy is peaking! Hardware is being installed and KLUG
volunteers are needed. Contact "Robert G. Brown" <bob@acm.org>
or "Dirk Bartley" <bartleyd2@net-link.net>.
KLUG IS NOW THE PROUD OWNER OF A PRESENTATION PROJECTOR!!!
SPECIFICATIONS OF INFOCUS LP425ZVB PROJECTOR - Cost $1,599.00
7.4 pounds, 9x12x3.9, 900 lumens, Manual zoom lens
SVGA (800x600) with compressed XGA (1024x768)
HDTV support, 400:1 Contrast, Throw 5 to 20ft
16.7 million colors, 2.4 to 12.6ft image size
16 degree key stoning, 1 Watt audio
IF YOU KNOW OF ADDITIONAL LINKS that should be included
in the KLUG LINKS page... please send e-mail suggestions
to <linkmaster@kalamazoolinux.org> so the LINKS team of
The Link Master will review the content of the web site.
If you haven't checked these links out lately, take a look.
http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/links
GREAT MEETING PRESENTATIONS. Your opportunity
to share your Linux experiences and see what
other people are doing. Come enjoy a meeting!
If you have an IDEA FOR A KLUG PRESENTATION or know
of a good speaker, we want to hear about it! Make
contact with our KLUG Program Director, Adam Williams
<awilliam@whitemice.org>. DSL, a Pentium Class Desktop
PC, VGA Projector, VGA Monitors, and an Overhead Projector
are Available for Use in KLUG Presentations! Contact
Dirk Bartley <bartleyd2@net-link.net>
NOTE -
* Must come to three meetings to qualify as a full member.
IV. GENERAL KLUG ANNOUNCEMENTS
WHAT IS KLUG? -
KLUG is a volunteer group formed by and for LINUX
system users in the Kalamazoo Michigan area. We
support, promote, and develop activities related
to the use, study, and application of LINUX in the
local community.
THE BEGINNER'S MEETINGS ARE HELD the first Tuesday of each
month. Linux basics and distribution installs are the
lessons of these evenings. If you do want KLUG's FREE help
installing Linux on your computer at one of these meetings,
see URL: http://kalamazoolinux.org/meetings/installform.html
Contact the KLUG Installmasters for more information:
installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org
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THE KLUG STANDARD BEGINNER'S PRESENTATION - LINUX BOOT CAMP!!!
http://kalamazoolinux.org/presentations/beginner01.html
===============================================================
Note:
As Linux matures as an OS, the educational needs are evolving.
The Beginner's Meeting format is changing with those needs.
It is difficult to cover all the basics in one meeting. Linux
is not just for CS experts and IT professionals. The "BASICS"
meetings are intended for those with limited experience with
Operating System's or even Personal Computer's. Your comments
and questions are welcomed!
IF YOU KNOW OF ADDITIONAL LINKS that should be included
in the KLUG LINKS page... please send e-mail suggestions
to <linkmaster@kalamazoolinux.org> so the LINKS team
can review the content of the site.
http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/links
REDHAT LINUX CERTIFICATION information is available
from a KLUG officer. See the club listserv for more
info or check certifications on the Links page.
http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/links/certification.html
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Y O U ARE ASKED TO REMEMBER THAT K L U G IS...
A ---> VOLUNTEER <--- ORGANIZATION!!!
Please Honor the Spirit of the GPL! Is it REALLY Free?
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VOLUNTEER CLUB POSITIONS NOW AVAILABLE:
All KLUG positions ARE NOT occupied currently. Some KLUG
volunteers are doing double duty. Please consider
serving the members as one of the following...
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SEE THIS LISTING FOR KLUG OFFICE DESCRIPTIONS
http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/organize/
- NUTRI MASTER Provide cookies and milk for KLUG meetings. *
* {Reimbursement for refreshment purchases!}
- MEETING GREETER Someone to assist with Chamber building access.
For security reasons, we need entrance and exit door control.
- OTHER POSITIONS ARE AVAILABLE, SOME FILL TWO VOLUNTEER SLOTS!
More info from "Dirk Bartley" <bartleyd2@net-link.net>
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# J O I N & S U P P O R T K L U G !!!
# Be a KLUG Supporting Member! $25 annually *
# ($.50 per meeting) TRULY A GREAT BARGAIN!!!
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# THE SUPPORTING MEMBERSHIP BENEFITS INCLUDE (= #)
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# GREAT MEETING PRESENTATIONS. Your opportunity
to share your Linux experiences and see what
other people are doing. Come enjoy a meeting!
If you have an IDEA FOR A KLUG PRESENTATION or know
of a good speaker, we want to hear about it! Make
contact with our KLUG Program Director, Adam Williams
<awilliam@whitemice.org>. A Pentium Class Desktop
PC, DSL Web Connection, VGA Projector, and an
Overhead Projector are Available for Use in KLUG
Presentations! Contact Dirk Bartley <bartleyd2@net-link.net>
# NON-COMMERCIAL OR PERSONAL WEB SITE HOSTED on the
KLUG server. Single page .html files can be sent to the
interim KLUG webmaster@kalamazoolinux.org for
posting. These are intended to be low traffic web
sites displaying appropriate content.
# CHECK OUT THE NEW KLUG LIBRARY PAGE - See the updated
inventory listing of our KLUG Library. The items listed in
green are only available to KLUG supporting members.
We have Debian, SuSE, Mandrake, and WinLinux distribution
packages available in our library along with several others.
Did you know we have *non-Linux* distribution additions!
Everything else is available to anyone that can come to a
KLUG meeting. If you would like to check out one of these
items, please check it off and submit the form on the KLUG
library page. We are sharing these next two items as an F-Y-I !
Please do show up at the meeting if you have books requested.
What about you? Do you need to return any KLUG library books?
Contact Dirk Bartley for more info <bartleyd2@net-link.net>.
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RED HAT v8.0.x HAS BEEN RELEASED
http://www.redhat.com/apps/download/
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************** BS-WARE SOFTWARE DISCOUNTS ***************
This Linux distribution now comes on three (3) CD's.
Supporting Member Discount on BS-Ware is $1.50 per
CD or 50% off! Bruce distributes a non-commercial
version of the Red Hat Linux OS! Notice - BS-Ware
prices are $3 per CD. A Great Deal!!! Thanks Bruce!!!
o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o
VISIT ===> http://kalamazoolinux.org/bsware/
o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o
See Bruce's BS-Ware web site to find out what Linux & other
distributions and application software he has available.
E-mail him in advance about your needs and pick up your
CD's at the next meeting. bruce@armintl.com
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NOTE -
* Must come to three meetings to qualify as a full member.
Bring a friend... who wants to learn about Open Source!
THE KALAMAZOO LINUX USERS GROUP WOULD LIKE TO THANK
the Law firm of Kreis Enderle Callander & Hudgins
for their generousity toward KLUG. Matt DePerno has
made contributions of his time to assist us in our
successful achievement of 501(c)(3) tax status with
the IRS!!!
THANKS to ARMSTRONG INTERNATIONAL, INC. for providing their
much appreciated IT Resources to support KLUG and Linux.
THANKS to KALAMAZOO CHAMBER OF COMMERCE for providing their
well appointed facilities for our meetings. Jas Networks has
donated a DSL (2.3 Mbit) connection that KLUG uses during the
meetings to allow attendees and presenters to connect by
network cable to a hub. An 802.11b wireless network connection
is also available from Michigan Wireless Networks. Many
projectors, flip chart easels, and projection screens have
been made available.
CONTACT INFORMATION:
Kalamazoo Linux Users Group, Inc.
6749 South Westnedge Avenue
Suite K-288
Portage MI 49002
e-mail address: chairman@kalamazoolinux.org
web site http://kalamazoolinux.org
Copyright 2002 Kalamazoo Linux Users Group, Inc.
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