[KLUG Members] Distributions and Package management

Russell Dillenburg members@kalamazoolinux.org
Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:54:40 -0700 (PDT)


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Does Redhat offer an automatic update service for a price?  I could swear I've seen it on their website, not to mention my uncle has it for his redhat server.  I've never actually used it myself.  
Russell
 adam@morrison-ind.com wrote:>How are folks handling package management issues? 

A pretty sweeping question, different people place different tasks under
"package management", can you clarift?

>I am doing some reading, and see that Redhat is pretty poor about
>updating packages between major releases. 

Again, quite a broad statement. They do fine by me, all the core packages are
pretty current. A "release" system will always lag somewhat behind, but such
is the price of stability. I often feel that RedHat is a tad aggressive, my
servers are pretty standard on 7.1. I wouldn't put 7.3 on a server yet.

Non-core packages like Samba, etc... do lag behind. But most largish site build
these independently anyway due to site constraints. 

>What distributions and package management techniques are folks using?

I manage all the core stuff via red-carpet, yep, thats a GUI. But it lays out 
what dependencies are going to be very clearly, and with as a paid service it is
fast. No getting carpel tunnell logging into a zillion ftp servers looking for
one stupid dependency.

Core stuff like bind, samba, and such we build from a standard spec file / src
rpm on the box where it will actually run.

A cron job dumps "rpm -qa" to my mailbox every month, and I tuck the message
away just in case. After any upgrade that requires building I just burn
/usr/src/redhat onto a CD and send it to the vault.

And don't mention Debion/apt-get, I might as well subscribe to M$'s automatic
update service. Ahhhh!
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<P>Does Redhat offer an automatic update service for a price?&nbsp; I could swear I've seen it on their website, not to mention my uncle has it for his redhat server.&nbsp; I've never actually used it myself.&nbsp; 
<P>Russell
<P>&nbsp;<B><I>adam@morrison-ind.com</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">&gt;How are folks handling package management issues? <BR><BR>A pretty sweeping question, different people place different tasks under<BR>"package management", can you clarift?<BR><BR>&gt;I am doing some reading, and see that Redhat is pretty poor about<BR>&gt;updating packages between major releases. <BR><BR>Again, quite a broad statement. They do fine by me, all the core packages are<BR>pretty current. A "release" system will always lag somewhat behind, but such<BR>is the price of stability. I often feel that RedHat is a tad aggressive, my<BR>servers are pretty standard on 7.1. I wouldn't put 7.3 on a server yet.<BR><BR>Non-core packages like Samba, etc... do lag behind. But most largish site build<BR>these independently anyway due to site constraints. <BR><BR>&gt;What distributions and package management techniques are folks using?<BR><BR>I manage all the core stuff via red-carpet, yep, thats a GUI. But it lays out <BR>what dependencies are going to be very clearly, and with as a paid service it is<BR>fast. No getting carpel tunnell logging into a zillion ftp servers looking for<BR>one stupid dependency.<BR><BR>Core stuff like bind, samba, and such we build from a standard spec file / src<BR>rpm on the box where it will actually run.<BR><BR>A cron job dumps "rpm -qa" to my mailbox every month, and I tuck the message<BR>away just in case. After any upgrade that requires building I just burn<BR>/usr/src/redhat onto a CD and send it to the vault.<BR><BR>And don't mention Debion/apt-get, I might as well subscribe to M$'s automatic<BR>update service. Ahhhh!<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Members mailing list<BR>Members@kalamazoolinux.org<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><TABLE width="67%" border=0>
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