[KLUG Members] KLUG Meeting Notes - 09/24/2002

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KALAMAZOO LINUX USER'S GROUP

MEMBERS AND GUESTS - COME JOIN US FOR A MEETING!!!
http://kalamazoolinux.org/meetings           
WE MEET WEEKLY, EACH TUESDAY AT 7:00PM.      
                                             
Our meeting site is the Kalamazoo Chamber    
of Commerce office building downtown.          
346 W. Michigan Ave. - Kalamazoo, MI  49007
http://kazoolug.org/meetings/maps.php3   <=== MAP!

Tuesday  September 24, 2002  7:00PM       
KLUG Meeting Notes - Summary

I.	PRESENTATION RECAP  		  
II.	NEXT WEEK'S MEETING INFO   <===  Beginner's Night!!!
III.	PROJECT REPORTS                  Linux Installs 
IV.	GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS

Tonight's Meeting Moderator:
KLUG Chairperson Dirk Bartley	

I.  PRESENTATION RECAP         
THIS WEEK'S KLUG PRESENTATION:   (16 active KLUG participants)
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Cyrus IMAP  (Mail Server)
by Adam Williams
                            
Most distributions of Linux ship with the University of
Washington IMAP and POP3 services for providing basic mail
services to a variety of clients.  Cyrus IMAP is an
alternative suite of mail server applications for providing
sophisticated mail services such as shared folders, bulletin
boards, NNTP integration, service side scripting and
filtering , etc... Developed by Carnegie Mellon University
Cyrus IMAP is used by many large e-mail installations
(>10,000 users).

PRESENTATION SUMMARY:
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Find this presentation and more at the KLUG Web Site:
http://kalamazoolinux.org/presentations
ftp://kalamazoolinux.org/pub/pdf/cyrus.pdf   * Migration Info
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Adam used a laptop PC running the Linux OS, Star Office v6.0,
and the KLUG SVGA projector to show us why you should consider
using Cyrus IMAP.  This was a very detailed and professional
demonstration of a valuable open source server application for
the Linux OS.  Great things are happening with the OS & apps!
Adam was noticeably missing his arm cast w/ sling and grinning.

During this presentation, Adam told us about the University
of Washington IMAP project and compared Cyrus IMAP.  He showed
how Cyrus was superior, in various ways, and easy to get running.
We heard about the protocols that Cyrus IMAP supports and saw
a list of server features.  Looked like everything was included.

Download the Linux RPM for Cyrus IMAP here:
http://home.teleport.ch/simix    cyrus-imapd-2.1.9-3.src.rpm

Adam was smiling through the configuration process and he let
us know that the 80 or more settings in /etc/imapd.conf
were managable for operations.  He showed us the admin shell.
It handled the quota notification process and authentication
without a snag for Adam's 200-seat commercial implementation.

Cyrus IMAP Home
  http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/                          
Good Install Info
  http://winnie.acsu.buffalo.edu/doc/install.html
Resources: 
  "Managing IMAP" by Mullet & Mullet - O'Reilly *
* older info

We heard about migration from U of W IMAP to Cyrus IMAP!
The instructions for doing this are posted on the KLUG 
web site!  <see above>  Ready for a better implementation?
The question and answer period was active and several areas
of understanding Cyrus IMAP were explored further.  

Adam is a network administrator based in Grand Rapids, but
the network he deals with is all over Michigan, with a
couple of hundred workstations, running Linux and other
Operating Systems.  Not only does he deal with domain issues
at work, but he is also the owner of the domain 
"whitemice.org".  Adam has been a regular contributor to
technical discussions on our main mailing list, both
presenting and solving some of the most challenging
networking and configuration problems. 

     NOTE -
* Must come to three meetings to qualify as a full member.


II.  NEXT KLUG MEETING - TUESDAY  10/01/2002   
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Linux for Beginners
by Dirk Bartley

THE BEGINNER'S MEETINGS ARE HELD the first Tuesday of each
month.  Linux basics and distribution installs are the
lessons of these evenings.  If you do want KLUG's FREE help
installing Linux on your computer at one of these meetings,

http://kalamazoolinux.org/meetings/installform.html
Contact the KLUG Installmasters for more information:
installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org
 - and -
IMPORTANT TO SEE URL:  http://kalamazoolinux.org/bsware

[WARNING: BRUCE SMITH OF BS-WARE IS ON VACATION - SOFTWARE
FOR THIS INSTALL MEETING WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE: BYO-OS]

Now is the time to get started!  Linux is becoming a mainstay
of free software, free choice, dependability and power.

===============================================================
THE STANDARD KLUG BEGINNER'S PRESENTATION - LINUX BOOT CAMP!!!
http://kalamazoolinux.org/presentations/beginner01.html
===============================================================

Note:
As Linux matures as an OS, the educational needs are evolving.
The Beginner's Meeting format is changing with those needs.
It is difficult to cover all the basics in one meeting.  Linux
is not just for CS experts and IT professionals.  The "BASICS"
meetings are intended for those with limited experience with
Operating System's or even Personal Computer's.  Your comments
and questions are welcomed!

Dirk Bartley, a WMU graduate, works as a systems
administrator for Schupan Aluminum Sales, a division
of Schupan and Sons.  His passion for free software
comes second to spending time with his wife Dawn, an
Upper Peninsula native, and taking Shelly, their
sheltie/terrier mix pound pooch, for a walk.  These
interests are only followed by his love of playing
ice hockey.

     NOTE -
* Must come to three meetings to qualify as a full member.


III. LINUX OR KLUG RELATED PROJECT REPORTS -

	N E W S   F L A S H E S ! ! !
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              K  L  U  G    O F F I C E R
E L E C T I O N S    C O M I N G    I N    J A N U A R Y  !!!
            * TUESDAY JANUARY 21ST MEETING *
Nominate KLUG Members for Offices!  Participate in the Vote.
http://kalamazoolinux.org/organize   - for more info -
*************************************************************
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 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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        READ EXTREME LINUX NEWS FEED - IT ALMOST HAPPENS HERE
	http://slashdot.org
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	RED HAT LINUX VERSION 7.3.x HAS BEEN RELEASED
        Current Linux OS kernel version 2.4.x 
  o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o
		     BS-WARE IS AVAILABLE FOR YOU NOW!
	VISIT ===>   http://kalamazoolinux.org/bsware/
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	KLUG HAS ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CHAMBER
	of Commerce that includes support of our networking
	services.  KLUG is entitled to facilities usage,
	access to the Jas Network DSL line bandwidth, and
	being recognized as an important part of the local
	business community.  THE CONTRACTS ARE ALL SIGNED!
*************************************************************
	MEETING GREETER NEEDED FOR CHAMBER KLUG MEETINGS
	Someone to assist with Chamber building access.
	For security reasons, KLUG needs entrance and exit
	door control.  Can you arrive early and leave last?
	CONTACT CHAIR DIRK BARTLEY <bartleyd2@net-link.net>
*************************************************************
	A FREE 802.11b WIRELESS NETWORK WITH 4 WIRELESS ACCESS
	points (WAP) is available within the Chamber building
        and is provided by the Dill Companies, Inc.  Bring your
	wireless cards to KLUG meetings.  When a KLUG member
	needs to access the internet while downtown, stop in
	and park/compute in the Chamber parking lot.  Thanks
	to John Dill for this appreciated service donation.
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THIS IS THE WAY TO GET THESE WEEKLY KLUG MEETING NOTES!    <--*HEY!*
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MAKE SURE YOU ARE SIGNED UP for the KLUG mailing lists!

Diversified mailing lists can be found on our web site.
http://kalamazoolinux.org/listserv/
Facilitated by - listmaster@kalamazoolinux.org   John Bridleman

Currently Available KLUG Lists:
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LIST          DESCRIPTION
Members       The main KLUG mailing list  <--- Weekly Meeting Notes!
Novices       A list for Linux beginners to ask questions
Hardware      List for hardware discussions
Advocacy      Pros & cons of different software
Inschool      A list for Linux in schools project
Driftwood     KLUG project of constructing a IP PBX
Phpsig        Discussion of PHP web programming
Speakers      Speakers and presentation topics
LDAPannounce  Adam's LDAP related project announcements

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	DRIFTWOOD PROJECT FORMS AND LAUNCHES MAILING LIST
	A teleconferencing and Linux PC PBX project that
	is open to anyone interested and exists to focus on
	the open source program Asterisk.  Join the Driftwood
        mailing list and see what is planned for this hands-on
	local project.  We might be broadcasting KLUG meetings
	on the net and more. * STILL TIME TO GET INVOLVED!!! * 
	http://kalamazoolinux.org/listserv/listserv.php3	
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   ===>	SURPLUS EQUIPMENT DONATIONS ARE NOW BEING ACCEPTED <===
        KLUG now has Sec. 501c3 - Charitable Tax Deduction
	-----------------------------------------------------
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=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
        KLUG'S 501c3 TAX DEDUCTIBLE STATUS HAS BEEN ATTAINED
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
	This is a big step forward for KLUG to finally have
	attained Non-profit Charitable Organization status.
	Now businesses and individuals can contribute hardware,
	software, services, cash, membership dues, and other
	contributions WITH FULL INCOME TAX DEDUCTIBILITY!!! 	
	There are many OTHER benefits that 'non-profits' enjoy.
	CONTACT CHAIR DIRK BARTLEY <bartleyd2@net-link.net>
*************************************************************
        NOW YOU CAN USE THE URL  HTTP://KAZOOLUG.ORG TO
        summon KLUG web pages.  Shorter and more exact!
        You can still use the longer URL as a valid address!   
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	LIBRARY DATABASE HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND POSTED
	Dirk Bartley has prepared a database to assist you
	in locating and requesting KLUG library resources
	http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/library/
*************************************************************

KLUG "PC SHOW" PUBLIC OUTREACH PROJECT HAD A SUCCESSFUL EVENT!
The big yellow KLUG banner was again proudly displayed on Sat.
August 31, 2002 at the ALSCS COMPUTER SHOW in KALAMAZOO, MI!
This was an important back-to-school show for this fall season.
This show was again held at the Kalamazoo County Fairgrounds.
Again, lots of Linux CD-ROM's were made available to the public
and many contacts were made.  To get more info or to volunteer
to help with the next public event that KLUG has planned, please
Contact KLUG Chairperson "Dirk Bartley" <bartleyd2@net-link.net> 
or Vice Chairperson "Stu Gillis" <showperson@kalamazoolinux.org>

BOOGIES CYBER CAFE - KLUG's public commercial Linux project.
*************************************************************
NEWS BULLETIN - BOOGIES HAS BEEN SOLD - AWAITING STATUS INFO
*************************************************************
Boogies is now...  "Ali Babba's Hookah Emporium," REALLY!
The Boogies project has been terminated and relocation
options are being considered.  We can help create another
cybercafe or do something completely different.  Send your
great ideas to "Robert G. Brown" <bob@acm.org> or "Dirk 
Bartley" <bartleyd2@net-link.net>. 

A KLUG PC RUNNING LINUX HAS BEEN PLACED AT THE KALAMAZOO CHAMBER
of Commerce to provide DHCP services.  This will enable easier
internet access for KLUG members attending meetings at the Chamber.
Lots more additions planned between KLUG and K C of C.  A newsgroup
server, web server, networking, and eventually EVERYTHING!  The
synergy is peaking!  Hardware is being installed and KLUG
volunteers are needed.  Contact "Robert G. Brown" <bob@acm.org>
or "Dirk Bartley" <bartleyd2@net-link.net>.

KLUG IS NOW THE PROUD OWNER OF A PRESENTATION PROJECTOR!!!
SPECIFICATIONS OF INFOCUS LP425ZVB PROJECTOR - Cost $1,599.00
7.4 pounds, 9x12x3.9, 900 lumens, Manual zoom lens
SVGA (800x600) with compressed XGA (1024x768)
HDTV support, 400:1 Contrast, Throw 5 to 20ft
16.7 million colors, 2.4 to 12.6ft image size
16 degree key stoning, 1 Watt audio

IF YOU KNOW OF ADDITIONAL LINKS that should be included
in the KLUG LINKS page... please send e-mail suggestions 
to <linkmaster@kalamazoolinux.org> so the LINKS team of
The Link Master will review the content of the web site.  
If you haven't checked these links out lately, take a look.
http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/links

GREAT MEETING PRESENTATIONS.  Your opportunity
to share your Linux experiences and see what
other people are doing.  Come enjoy a meeting!
If you have an IDEA FOR A KLUG PRESENTATION or know
of a good speaker, we want to hear about it!  Make
contact with our KLUG Program Director, Adam Williams
<awilliam@whitemice.org>.  DSL, a Pentium Class Desktop
PC, VGA Projector, VGA Monitors, and an Overhead Projector
are Available for Use in KLUG Presentations! Contact
Dirk Bartley <bartleyd2@net-link.net>

     NOTE -
* Must come to three meetings to qualify as a full member.

   
IV.   GENERAL KLUG ANNOUNCEMENTS

WHAT IS KLUG? -
KLUG is a volunteer group formed by and for LINUX
system users in the Kalamazoo Michigan area.  We
support, promote, and develop activities related
to the use, study, and application of LINUX in the
local community.

THE BEGINNER'S MEETINGS ARE HELD the first Tuesday of each
month.  Linux basics and distribution installs are the
lessons of these evenings.  If you do want KLUG's FREE help
installing Linux on your computer at one of these meetings,
see URL: http://kalamazoolinux.org/meetings/installform.html
Contact the KLUG Installmasters for more information:
installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org
===============================================================
THE KLUG STANDARD BEGINNER'S PRESENTATION - LINUX BOOT CAMP!!!
http://kalamazoolinux.org/presentations/beginner01.html
===============================================================
Note:
As Linux matures as an OS, the educational needs are evolving.
The Beginner's Meeting format is changing with those needs.
It is difficult to cover all the basics in one meeting.  Linux
is not just for CS experts and IT professionals.  The "BASICS"
meetings are intended for those with limited experience with
Operating System's or even Personal Computer's.  Your comments
and questions are welcomed!

IF YOU KNOW OF ADDITIONAL LINKS that should be included
in the KLUG LINKS page... please send e-mail suggestions 
to <linkmaster@kalamazoolinux.org> so the LINKS team
can review the content of the site.
http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/links

REDHAT LINUX CERTIFICATION information is available
from a KLUG officer.  See the club listserv for more
info or check certifications on the Links page.
http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/links/certification.html

+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ >  R E A D  T H I S   < +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
 Y O U   ARE ASKED TO REMEMBER THAT  K L U G  IS...
 A      --->   VOLUNTEER   <---    ORGANIZATION!!!
Please Honor the Spirit of the GPL!  Is it REALLY Free?
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
VOLUNTEER CLUB POSITIONS NOW AVAILABLE:
All KLUG positions ARE NOT occupied currently.  Some KLUG
volunteers are doing double duty.  Please consider
serving the members as one of the following...
=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
SEE THIS LISTING FOR KLUG OFFICE DESCRIPTIONS
http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/organize/

- NUTRI MASTER  Provide cookies and milk for KLUG meetings. * 
      * {Reimbursement for refreshment purchases!}
- MEETING GREETER  Someone to assist with Chamber building access.
  For security reasons, we need entrance and exit door control.  
- OTHER POSITIONS ARE AVAILABLE, SOME FILL TWO VOLUNTEER SLOTS! 
  More info from "Dirk Bartley" <bartleyd2@net-link.net>

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#	J O I N    &    S U P P O R T    K L U G  !!!
#	Be a KLUG Supporting Member!  $25 annually *
#	($.50 per meeting) TRULY A GREAT BARGAIN!!!
#
#	THE SUPPORTING MEMBERSHIP BENEFITS INCLUDE (= #)
*****************************************************************

# GREAT MEETING PRESENTATIONS. Your opportunity
to share your Linux experiences and see what
other people are doing.  Come enjoy a meeting!
If you have an IDEA FOR A KLUG PRESENTATION or know
of a good speaker, we want to hear about it!  Make
contact with our KLUG Program Director, Adam Williams
<awilliam@whitemice.org>.  A Pentium Class Desktop
PC, DSL Web Connection, VGA Projector, and an
Overhead Projector are Available for Use in KLUG
Presentations! Contact Dirk Bartley <bartleyd2@net-link.net>

# NON-COMMERCIAL OR PERSONAL WEB SITE HOSTED on the
KLUG server.  Single page .html files can be sent to the
interim KLUG webmaster@kalamazoolinux.org for
posting.  These are intended to be low traffic web
sites displaying appropriate content.

# CHECK OUT THE NEW KLUG LIBRARY PAGE -  See the updated
inventory listing of our KLUG Library. The items listed in
green are only available to KLUG supporting members.
We have Debian, SuSE, Mandrake, and WinLinux distribution
packages available in our library along with several others.
Did you know we have *non-Linux* distribution additions!
Everything else is available to anyone that can come to a
KLUG meeting. If you would like to check out one of these
items, please check it off and submit the form on the KLUG
library page.   We are sharing these next two items as an F-Y-I !
Please do show up at the meeting if you have books requested.
What about you?  Do you need to return any KLUG library books?
Contact Dirk Bartley for more info <bartleyd2@net-link.net>.

# *************************************************************
                RED HAT v7.3.x HAS BEEN RELEASED
                http://www.redhat.com/apps/download/
  *************************************************************
  **************   BS-WARE SOFTWARE DISCOUNTS   ***************
This Linux distribution now comes on three (3) CD's.  
Supporting Member Discount on BS-Ware is $1.50 per
CD or 50% off!  Bruce distributes a non-commercial
version of the Red Hat Linux OS!  Notice - BS-Ware
prices are $3 per CD.  A Great Deal!!!  Thanks Bruce!!!  

o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o
VISIT  ===>   http://kalamazoolinux.org/bsware/
o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o

See Bruce's BS-Ware web site to find out what Linux & other
distributions and application software he has available.
E-mail him in advance about your needs and pick up your
CD's at the next meeting.  bruce@armintl.com
**************************************************************
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     NOTE -
* Must come to three meetings to qualify as a full member.
  Bring a friend... who wants to learn about Open Source!

THE KALAMAZOO LINUX USERS GROUP WOULD LIKE TO THANK 
the Law firm of Kreis Enderle Callander & Hudgins
for their generousity toward KLUG.  Matt DePerno has
made contributions of his time to assist us in our
successful achievement of 501(c)(3) tax status with
the IRS!!!

THANKS to ARMSTRONG INTERNATIONAL, INC. for providing their
much appreciated IT Resources to support KLUG and Linux.

THANKS to KALAMAZOO CHAMBER OF COMMERCE for providing their
well appointed facilities for our meetings.  Jas Networks has 
donated a DSL (2.3 Mbit) connection that KLUG uses during the
meetings to allow attendees and presenters to connect by
network cable to a hub.  An 802.11b wireless network connection
is also available from Michigan Wireless Networks.  Many
projectors, flip chart easels, and projection screens have
been made available.  

 >><< send corrections, additions, flames to the KLUG scribe >><<
         mag00@voyager.net  or  magoo@yakko.cs.wmich.edu


Space & Time Coordinates: Planet Earth During the Holocene Period 


CONTACT INFORMATION:
Kalamazoo Linux Users Group, Inc.
6749 South Westnedge Avenue
Suite K-288
Portage  MI 49002
e-mail address: chairman@kalamazoolinux.org
web site  http://kalamazoolinux.org

Copyright 2002                 Kalamazoo Linux Users Group, Inc.
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