[KLUG Members] Re: Routers & Firewalls

Mike Williams members@kalamazoolinux.org
Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:33:39 -0500


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  <pre wrap="">From: Taz <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
 href="mailto:htgage3@chartermi.net">&lt;htgage3@chartermi.net&gt;</a>
To: members <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
 href="mailto:members@kalamazoolinux.org">&lt;members@kalamazoolinux.org&gt;</a>
Subject: [KLUG Members] Re: Routers &amp; Firewalls
Reply-To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
 href="mailto:members@kalamazoolinux.org">members@kalamazoolinux.org</a>

Hi All,

In considering the need for a router, and wanting to stay with a brand
that I trust (Netgear,) (unless the gurus feel otherwise.) I see that
Best (Worst? <img src="cid:part1.02080806.02070003@zuzax.com" alt=";-)"
 class="moz-txt-smily" height="19" width="19" align="middle"> ) Buy has two that I am interested in, except for cost.
My bean counter will have a canary if I tell her the cost of the one,
but I want what is the best for the long haul.</pre>
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I can't say enough nice things about Netgear. &nbsp;I have an ISDN router
from them (RT 328) that has been fantastic. &nbsp;I noticed a weird
incompatibility with a new phone recently, but other than that it's been
flawless for 5 years. &nbsp;I called support about its strange behavior, and
they exchanged the unit, even with it's age. &nbsp;The new one behaved
exactly like the old one, but still: &nbsp;replacement 3 years after the
product was disco'd is bordering on amazing.<br>
<br>
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                  Netgear Cable/DSL Firewall Router with 4-Port Switch &#8212;
FR314
                  Integrated 4-port switch shares high-speed cable/DSL
Internet
                  connectivity; true firewall security prevents attacks;
access
                  filtering capability
                  View all products in this category.
                                                       ThinkAbout&#8482; It
                                                      $249.99

or

                  Netgear Platinum Cable/DSL Web Safe Router with 4-Port

                  Switch &#8212; RP614
                  Built-in 4-port switch to share high-speed cable/DSL
Internet
                  access and more; content filtering and browser
activity
                  monitoring; NAT firewall
                  View all products in this category.

In the mighty gurus opinions, which of the two is the best buy? True
firewall security or NAT firewall? Or should I just get a plain router
and use a old box that I have for a firewall?

TIA

Bruce</pre>
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Ahem, well it's difficult to give you a good opinion on value when you
only give prices on one of them. &nbsp;Anyway, I'm seeing 3 levels of
security (and cost) here. &nbsp;1) &nbsp;the little router, and assume NAT is good
enough security, which for small operations, it probably is. &nbsp;If you can
redirect different ports to different IP's, compromising a system
behind the NAT is not easy. &nbsp;2) the big router. &nbsp;All of the above except
that it's even harder. &nbsp;It doesn't just map port 80 through, it makes
sure that it's actually HTTP traffic on that port rather than something
else. &nbsp;3) Linux firewall. &nbsp;Seems to me you don't even need the router
here, just an old computer with 2 or 3 NICs. &nbsp;(I'm assuming the WAN
connection is already converted to ethernet here?) &nbsp;This will take up a
lot more space, even with a smallish machine, but give you far more
flexibility. &nbsp;In particular, this is likely the only way to get a DMZ
out of the system, and it's more likely to support things like VPN.
&nbsp;I've never messed with one of these, so I don't know how easy they are
to manage. &nbsp;<br>
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