[KLUG Members] KLUG Meeting Notes for 07/08/2003
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KLUG Meeting Notes: Tuesday - July 08, 2003 7:00PM
I. PRESENTATION RECAP
II. NEXT WEEK'S MEETING INFO <=== GNUCash Revisited!!!
III. KLUG MAILING LISTS
IV. KLUG & LINUX NEWS FLASHES
V. KLUG CONTACT & MEETING INFO
Tonight's Meeting Moderator: KLUG Chairperson Todd Pillars
I. PRESENTATION RECAP
THIS WEEK'S KLUG PRESENTATION: (20 active KLUG participants)
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Kerberos V, The New Security Standard
by Adam Williams
Kerberos V is a highly secure single sign-on technology, and
rapidly becoming the standard for corporate computers systems.
Tonight we'll see a walk through of creating a KDC (Kerberos
Domain Controller) on a standard RedHat install, as well as
setting up a workstation. Also receiving honorable mention
will be LDAP, GSSAPI, and the infamous Microsoft PAC (a
"proprietary" extension to the Kerberos protocol).
SEE ADAM'S KERBEROS PRESENTATION ON THE KLUG WEB SITE:
http://kalamazoolinux.org/presentations/
PRESENTATION SUMMARY:
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Adam used the new KLUG XGA projector connected to his Toshiba
laptop running Red Hat v9 with OpenOffice.org v1.0.3 (Impress)
to display 75 slides expounding upon Kerberos 5. We had plenty
of humor (Who let the dogs out?) and he fielded questions with
candor and depth as he progressed through these slides.
The Kerberos logo is from Greek mythology. A three headed dog
in a keyhole. The image is symbolic of the fierce beast that
guarded the entrance to the underworld. To pass over the River
Styx one needed a token or a coin for the death ferry's fare!
Kerberos is an authentication scheme from Massachusetts Institute
of Technology (MIT) using a single sign-on protocol employing a
secret key (time limited authentication ticket) system.
Adam's presentation covered network requirements, defined the
terms that comprise the environment, described the functionality,
identified the components, listed the supported services, and
showed us how to test the configuration. We saw how to configure
both the server and the clients via a 12 step listing that then
prepared you for eventually starting the Kerberos authentication
service. Adam explained how Carnegie Mellon's Cyrus - SASL GSSAPI
project relates to Kerberos.
Adam addressed Kerberos administration issues and included the
common mistakes that one should avoid. We saw the client side
configuration which involved only three steps. Directory enabled
Linux with OpenLDAP can incorporate Kerberos. He described the
user's considerations and we heard about the Win32 aspects of this
authentication technology. While the protocol does provide tight
and painless security it also has a weakness which was described.
A cracker gaining the Kerberos "stash" file could have full access
to your domain and all that it contains. Clear cautions were
voiced and emphasized. Guard this file with dogged vigilance.
The content of tonight's presentation was extremely complex and
is not well documented elsewhere. Adam did a professional and
concise job of putting down all the particulars that one would
need to fully grasp and implement this network security tool.
Kerberos is Open Source but the MIT incarnation is not GPL'd.
There is a project that is! You'll find lots of detail and
many references within his presentation slides to empower you
in your quest to implement this security protocol. Newbies
to Linux would have been bewildered and undoubtedly displaying
glazed over eyes about 15 minutes into this presentation. He
hopefully didn't overwhelm any unsuspecting attendees tonight.
KLUG has had casualties in the past when people have attended
such highly technical and elite presentations. KLUG is for
people at ALL levels of Linux involvement and we do not want to
limit KLUG expert users from sharing their high level technical
knowledge.
LEARN MORE ABOUT KERBEROS V (See Adam's resource listing too)
http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/www/
Adam is a network administrator based in Grand Rapids, but the
network he deals with is all over Michigan, with a couple of
hundred workstations, running Linux and other Operating Systems.
Not only does he deal with domain issues at work, but he is
also the owner of the domain "whitemice.org". Adam has been a
regular contributor to technical discussions on our main mailing
list, both presenting and solving some of the most challenging
networking and configuration problems.
II. NEXT KLUG MEETING - TUESDAY 07/15/2003
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GNUCash Revisited
by Brian Ritz
GNUCash is a financial program for the household. It is similar
to Quicken, but at the same time it is a little more powerful.
And of course the best part is that it is free and comes with
gnome. In tonights presentation we will be taking a look at home
use for GNUCash. From using it to keep track of your checkbook
to savings accounts. It also some neat features like reports
and graphs for tracking you money trail. In late summer/fall
I will be doing another presentation on GNUCash, on whether
it is ready to use for a business or not so stay tuned.
Brian Ritz is currently working in commercial logistics
and has been working with Linux almost exclusively as
a user of the Whitemice.Org network. He holds a degree in
Finance from Grand Valley State University.
III. K L U G M A I L I N G L I S T S -
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Diversified mailing lists can be found on the KLUG web site.
http://kalamazoolinux.org/listserv/
Facilitated by - John Bridleman listmaster@kalamazoolinux.org
Sign up and participate to serve the Open Source community!!!
(240 plus registrations on the "KLUG members" mailing list)
IV. K L U G & L I N U X N E W S F L A S H E S ! ! !
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RED HAT SETS EYE ON JAPANESE MARKET
Red Hat Linux distributor Red Hat is positioning for a share of the
Japanese market, and has turned to Japanese open source technology
integrator Ten Art-ni to give it a foothold.
http://www.linux.org/news/2003/07/04/0002.html
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LINUS TORVALDS ABOUT SCO, IP, MS, AND TRANSMETA
" San Jose Mercury News has an interview with Linus. He talks about
about SCO vs IBM and gives his opinion on Microsoft. He also shed
light on his decision to leave chip maker Transmeta for a Linux
corporate software consortium, the Open Source Development Lab."
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/05/1728201&mode=thread
&tid=106&tid=185
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CAN OPEN SOURCE SAVE HARDWARE?
"Tom's Hardware has a interesting story about Open Source saving
the hardware industry. Pretty good read all in all. Hopefully
chip makers and vendors won't have to bend to the iron might
of Microsoft any longer." Some good comments on how early-adopters
and enthusiasts are being marginalized by the industry, too.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/05/1441256&mode=
thread&tid=137
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GNUMERIC TURNS 5
"Five years ago, Miguel committed the first code for Gnumeric
to CVS. In a testament to the quality of the code several lines
are still in use. Since that time the project has grown to more
than 300,000 lines and now supports all 325 worksheet functions
in MS Excel, plus almost 100 more. This seemed like a good time
to thank all the people who have contributed to Gnumeric over
the years. We're about to start the run up to the the next
stable release which will be out in a few weeks and we look
forward to continuing work with GNOME, and the community at
large to produce the most powerful spreadsheet in the world."
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/04/1844203&mode=
thread&tid=131&tid=189
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LINUS SAYS PRE-V2.6 IS COMING
Linus has announced that the pre-2.6 series will be starting
in early July. Despite not having been able to meet the
release goal for 2.6 in June 2003, the next stable version
is not as far away as you may think. You can take your guess
based on the fact there was a 9 month period between first
est version of 2.4 and the official release of 2.4.0 on
January 2001."
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/04/138231&mode=
thread&tid=106&tid=185
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XBOX LINUX MADE POSSIBLE WITHOUT A MODCHIP
"Free-X have released an exploit for the Xbox that will let you
get Linux on the machine without any hardware mods at all...
Microsoft is already threatening them with legal action. Here's
the Free-X statement. Free-X say they had been trying to contact
MS for a month but were ignored, which is why they've released
the exploit. Should be interesting to watch this one."
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/04/0521245&mode=
thread&tid=106&tid=127&tid=185&tid=186&tid=211
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WHICH ORGANIZATIONS HAVE STANDARDIZED ON MOZILLA?
" We are investigating email clients to deploy as our "standard"
at the college where I work. I'm trying to find out who is using
Mozilla for their email. When I say "who" I mean organizationally,
as I realize 99% of us geeks already use it. What organizations
out there are rolling out Mozilla as their standard web and/or
email client, and why? Yes, we are considering using Thunderbird,
once it is final. Thanks!" Hopefully this will make companies
realize that the Internet isn't comprised of just IE users.
READ THE COMMENTS!!! WOW!
http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/03/0039200&mode=
thread&tid=126&tid=154&tid=187&tid=95
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HEWLETT PACKARD/COMPAQ TO SELL PC'S WITH MANDRAKE V9.1
"HP just announced a new PC model (HP Compaq d220) that's available
preloaded with Windows or Mandrake 9.1. The machine appears to be
targeted to business users, although it's on the lower-end of the
scale. Mandrake also has a press release announcing the deal,
which will grow to include four other HP models. Is this a sign
that top tier manufacturers are taking Linux more seriously, or
at least seeing a profitable niche?"
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/02/227248&mode=
thread&tid=147&tid=187
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CORE MAC OS X AND UNIX PROGRAMMING
"Finally, a new OS X programming book that isn't just another
introduction to Cocoa. This book adds a lot to the available
references by covering the system as a flavor of Unix,
presenting information on important topics like sockets,
multithreading and pipes, which other OS X books leave out.
It also includes coverage and sample code for some of the
unfamiliar new technologies that have been introduced recently,
such as the Keychain, Rendezvous (aka Zeroconf), and using
the Security framework to authorize users."
http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/01/1636204&mode=
thread&tid=107&tid=126&tid=156&tid=187
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HORMEL SUES OVER SPAMARREST NAME
"Hormel has filed a lawsuit against Spam Arrest LLC. for
endangering "substantial goodwill and good reputation" of
their meat product, Spam. If Hormel wins, it could be bad
news for umpteen companies that make use of the word spam
in their name."
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/02/1453254&
mode=thread&tid=111&tid=126
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GPL MAY NOT WORK IN GERMAN LEGAL SYSTEM
"It may be that the (L)GPL can not be (fully) enforced
under German jurisdiction. This is at least the conclusion
professor Gerald Spindler of the jurisprudential faculty
of the University of Goettingen came to when he examines
the Legal questions of the open source software (It's
long, it's complex and it's in German and it's written
by a professor, so don't expect to understand anything,
if you are not a German lawyer).
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/02/0245228&
mode=thread&tid=117&tid=99
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NETSCAPE FOUNDER SAYS WEB BROWSING INNOVATION DEAD
"Marc Andreessen told Reuters today that browser innovation
ended five years ago (which would put us at about Navigator
4.5 beta -- what was so innovative about that? The "What's
Related" button? Beatnik integration?) "Navigation is an
embarrassment. Using bookmarks and back and forth buttons
-- we had about eighteen different things we had in mind
for the browser." Well, pass me the NDA and tell me what
they were!"
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/01/2354205&mode=
thread&tid=114&tid=126&tid=95
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SINBAD HEARS LINUX'S SIREN SONG
A thousand years ago, people were telling the story of Sinbad
the Sailor and his seven amazing voyages. Now the
swashbuckling sailor has been given new life with Linux.
http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,59452,00.html
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MICROSOFT'S OPEN SOURCE NT: LINUX'S NEMESIS?
As Linux continues to penetrate the desktop space, Microsoft
could open new revenue streams by providing support for
subscribers to its open-source NT. Although companies are
slowly moving their desktops to Linux, an open-source
version of Windows, with Microsoft providing support, might
be something they would wait for. In many ways, it could
derail the Linux express train before it reaches full speed.
http://comment.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t479-s2136886,00.html
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OVERVIEW OF LINUX PRINTING SYSTEMS
This article presents a brief overview of the main printing
systems in use on most Linux systems, with an introduction
to the concepts and procedures at the core of UNIX printing.
We will finish by approaching the future of Linux printing,
and how it is quickly improving.
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6729&mode=
thread&order=0
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OPEN SOURCE COMPANY WANTS CASH TO OPEN SOURCE [$HOCKER?]
"A Russian open source developer says he needs money before
he can release code written for the OpenOffice suite.
Vladislav Kharchev, CEO of Stunnix,explains that an unnamed
investor paid for four months' work before pulling out.
'We feel the great importance of our modifications, and it
would be a pain if they would be missing in OpenOffice.org
1.1,' he says on the Stunnix website."
http://linuxtoday.com/developer/2003070301926NWBZDT
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MORTON JOINS TORVALDS AT OSDL
No sooner had OSDL announced, as they did last month, that the
father of Linux, Linus Torvalds, was now a full-time fellow at
the Lab, than they apparently set about wooing his right-hand
man, Andrew Morton - currently principal engineer for Digeo
Inc. - into the fold.
http://www.linuxworld.com/story/32987.htm
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SCO'S TREATMENT OF LINUX "AKIN TO WATER TORTURE"
"Will This Feud Choke the Life Out of Linux?" asks a
BusinessWeek writer in the July 7 issue, in reference to the
suit filed against IBM in March by SCO Group Inc.
http://www.linuxworld.com/story/32986.htm
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IN THE OPEN SOURCE SPIRIT WE CALL FOR MEETING SUPPORT VOLUNTEERS
Please don't make us RANT about organization needs for volunteers!
We need additional volunteers to act as the "Meeting Firewall"
to handle Chamber access control and security issues. The Chamber
has asked us to safeguard their assets as KLUG members come and
go from the meeting room each Tuesday night. Bob surely needs
help with this function which requires that you get to the meetings
early and see that the everything is locked up as the last person
leaves. This means being at the Chamber at 6:30pm and hanging
around until 10:00pm. We have other volunteer positions available
and many of these duties could be shared if you have an interest.
G E T I N V O L V E D I N K L U G N O W ! ! !
Please contact installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org for more details.
See http://kalamazoolinux.org/organize for position descriptions.
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THE WMU COMPUTER CLUB - YAKKO IS THEIR MAIN LINUX SERVER!
The Computer Club at Western Michigan University exists to promote
a better understanding of computers for both members of the club
and members of the WMU community. This goal is achieved through
various club projects, member presentations, Linux Install Parties,
and discussions at our meetings. Do you need help getting your
computer to function properly? Are you interested in installing
Linux? Do you just want a place to hang out and have a good time?
If the answer to any of those questions or any other question is
'yes' then you should come check us out. We welcome anyone
(regardless of computer experience) who is willing to share
whatever talents they have, listen to others, and have a good
time.
http://yakko.cs.wmich.edu/
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KLUG SUPPORTING MEMBERS CAN GET THEIR PICTURE ON THE WEB SITE
Want your picture posted with your name as a KLUG Supporting
Member? Send the tasteful graphic file and your request to
webmaster@kalamazoolinux.org.
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KLUG NOW OWNS A NEW XGA VIDEO PROJECTOR
Adam reported that KLUG has upgraded the video projector from SVGA
to XGA!!! From 800 x 600 to 1024 x 768, it should boost presentation
viewing pleasure. This projector is well rated:
INFOCUS LP335 DLP PROJECTOR
1000 LUMEN - XGA - LP-0335-V + Extended 12 month warranty
Digital Light Processing DLP which provides sharp images under
variable lighting conditions.
http://www.consumersearch.com/www/office/portable_pc_projectors/
Anyone know of a buyer for our 2 year old KLUG SVGA projector?
We should ask $800 for this unit and it is in excellent condition.
It has about 150 hours on a 1000 hour bulb. Works just fine.
It is an InFocus model LP425ZVB with padded carrying case.
Contact Todd chair@kalamazoolinux.org for more info.
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KLUG NEEDS VOLUNTEERS TO FILL SEVERAL VACANT POSITIONS
Nutrimaster and Education Director volunteer slots are still vacant.
Please contact chair@kalamazoolinux.org for more details.
Volunteers are needed for Beginner's Nights and Installfests.
Please contact installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org for more details.
See http://kalamazoolinux.org/organize for position descriptions.
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KLUG NEEDS SPEAKERS FOR THE WEEKLY LINUX RELATED PRESENTATIONS!
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Contact Adam if you can give a presentation on any area of Linux
related subject or application. He would also like to hear your
suggestions for topics and possible speaker referrals. Do you
know anyone who is using Linux in Southwest Michigan and might
be willing to share their Linux expertise by making a technical
presentation? Professional, individual, or commercial speakers
on Linux accepted. Contact programdirector@kalamazoolinux.org
with your referrals and ideas. See the meeting schedule for open
dates. http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/meetings/schedule.php3
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V. K L U G C O N T A C T & M E E T I N G I N F O
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KLUG WEB SITE http://kalamazoolinux.org
MEMBERS AND GUESTS - COME JOIN US FOR A MEETING!!!
http://kalamazoolinux.org/meetings
WE MEET WEEKLY, EACH TUESDAY AT 7:00PM.
Our meeting site is the Kalamazoo Chamber
of Commerce office building downtown.
346 W. Michigan Ave. - Kalamazoo, MI 49007
http://kazoolug.org/meetings/maps.php3 <=== MAP!
CONTACT INFORMATION:
Kalamazoo Linux Users Group, Inc.
6749 South Westnedge Avenue
Suite K-288
Portage MI 49002
e-mail address: chair@kalamazoolinux.org
NOTE:
Effective January 1st, 2002, KLUG has been granted 501C3 status by
the IRS. This is a big step forward. Now all donations (including
hardware, services, cash, or membership dues) are tax deductible!
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