[KLUG Members] Re: DNS and IPCop

Tony Gettig members@kalamazoolinux.org
Fri, 6 Jun 2003 11:06:47 -0400


Wow, I was wrong! Man, whatever you do, don't tell my wifal unit! :)

OK, I understand what you're doing and that's agreeable. But you explicitly 
configured the proxy setting. I *think*, if I recall earlier messages in this 
thread (it's getting a little difficult to follow now), he didn't want to 
configure clients to access the proxy, which would mean he wants transparent 
proxy. That being the case, web traffic is scooped off the wire by the proxy 
on its way out...transparently...so the client would have to have default 
gateway & DNS info handed to it, right? How else will it know where to go?

Otherwise, based on the results you report, I reckon default gw & DNS info are 
not required at the client. Thank you for clarifying that, because I am in the 
process of ditching squid on IPCop and running it on a different box and not 
transparently. I would have gone through the trouble of handing out that extra 
info when I didn't need to. So, thanks for saving me some effort!

Tony



Quoting Randall Perry <RandallP@domain-logic.com>:

> At 08:58 AM 6/6/2003, you wrote:
> >I think Adam's assertion is right on the money with this. You've GOT to have
> 
> >DNS working at the client. 
> Actually, that isn't the case.
> When I first took over IT at my present appointment they were running WinNT
> SBS 4.5.  The were using Microsoft Proxy server without ANY default gw or DNS
> settings on the client.  Their web browsers just have to be set to the proxy
> server and it takes care of the rest.
> 
> I have since migrated the setup to a Linux box with squid and more recently
> (3 months ago) to an IPCop box with squid.
> Just to be certain I wasn't imagining the whole thing, I just reconfigured my
> own work notebook to have a static address and subnet mask WITH NO default
> gateway or DNS.
> I go into mozilla and google doesn't come up.  Go to Edit-preferences and
> enter the internal address of the IPCop box with port 800 as proxy.
> Immediately google comes up.
> 
> So NO you do not need DNS info at the client, because that is what a proxy
> does (besides just caching pages).  That proxy server, though, has to know
> how to get places and needs an appropriate DNS and routing info.
> 
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