The Art of Deception: Re: [KLUG Members] Hacking a Hacker Legal?

[Jim C]

Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> If the average network user is anything like my average user, network security
> is something you pay attention to because it is the professional thing to do -
> not because you can ever achieve a meaningful level of security.  Users are just
> so stupid that your competitor can call up on the phone and ask them to fax over
> the information they want; "Derrrr.... Ok."  They don't even need to lie about
> who they are,  the user won't take 2 seconds to think about if that makes sense,
> or just really doesn't care.

Were they never counseled about security?

Users are ignorant, not stupid, and that is OK.  Their expertise lies 
elsewhere.  I wouldn't automatically expect a Fireman or a Police 
officer to be able to managed a complex configuration or C++. 
Conversely, they should not expect me to be able to properly put out a 
fire or give someone a speeding ticket, etc.  INDIVIDUALS, on the other 
hand, can be just plain blind ass stupid and in my opinion stupidity is 
surely grounds for dismissal since it is also frequently grounds for 
removal from the gene pool.