[KLUG Members] KLUG Meeting Notes for 05/06/2003

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06 May 2003 23:42:32 -0400


KLUG Meeting Notes:  Tuesday - May 06, 2003  7:00PM       

I.    PRESENTATION RECAP    
II.   NEXT WEEK'S MEETING INFO   <===  SAMBA III NETWORKING!!! 
III.  KLUG MAILING LISTS              
IV.   KLUG & LINUX NEWS FLASHES 
V.    KLUG CONTACT & MEETING INFO 

Tonight's Meeting Moderator:  KLUG Vice-Chairperson Stu Gillis


I.  PRESENTATION RECAP         
THIS WEEK'S KLUG PRESENTATION:   (21 active KLUG participants) 
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Linux for Beginners
by Stu Gillis

THE BEGINNER'S MEETINGS ARE HELD the first Tuesday of each
month.  Linux basics and distribution installs are the
lessons of these evenings.  If you do want KLUG's FREE help
installing Linux on your computer at one of these meetings,

http://kalamazoolinux.org/meetings/installform.html
Contact the KLUG Installmasters for more information:
installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org  
 - and -
ORDER YOUR SOFTWARE HERE:  http://kalamazoolinux.org/bsware

Now is the time to get started!  Linux is becoming a mainstay
of free software, free choice, dependability and power.

PRESENTATION SUMMARY:
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KLUG Beginner's / Install Night was well attended despite the
near perfect weather outside.  Stu handled the proceedings for
Todd Pillars who could not be the master of ceremonies tonight.

We had a recap from Andrew Thompson about his adventures at the
1st annual Penguicom in Warren, Michigan over the weekend. This
Science Fiction / Linux conference was a great opportunity for
him to meet some of the well known Linux public personalities.
These included Eric Raymond, Terry Pratchett, Pete Abrams, Illiad,
Marcel Gagné, Commander Taco, and others.  He got autographs,
a chance for one-on-one discussion, and even helped Marcel Gagné
to put on a Knoppix presentation by loaning him the use of his 
Linux laptop.  See more about Andrew's visit and read his live
report e-mailed in from this year's Penguicom! 

Dirk Bartley gave us a quick review of the low cost ($25 to $35)
thin-client computing device he purchased at the A1SCS sale at
the Kalamazoo County Fairgrounds recently.  It makes an impressive
LTSP device.  He is hoping to find the funding for several more
of these for KLUG use as LTSP clients at meetings.  A monitor and
a keyboard turn these devices into workstations when driven by
a LTSP server!

There were only two installations being attended to by the KLUG
Install Master Andrew Thompson tonight.  One was on Chris' IBM 
ThinkPad 600, who was installing Mandrake v9.1.  That install
looked like it was successful!  William has two machines and he
was trying to get BS-Ware v9 installed.  One of these boxes was
a P3 500 MHz.  It did not turn out so well, both of these PC's
seemed to have some problems that prevented them from successful
installs.  While these installs were going on there were several
people helping Linux users with configuration and information
needs.  I noticed that the first time attendees were getting lots
of attention and hearing all about the advantages of running Linux!

After a frenzy of Linux installs during the Red Hat Linux v8.0 
release era... it looks like the recent release of Red Hat Linux
v9 has slowed the install requests.  Is that because the installs
and configuration is just so easy that even newbies can now get
those installs up and running without the help of an experienced
Linux user?  YES IT IS TRUE!  Linux has hit mainstream like TNT! 
The word IS out... it is not just for geeky systems administrators
and network engineers ANYMORE!!!  If you have been hanging back,
jump right into the learning process now.  It is a great time to
be a Linux user!!!  Linux has something for everyone who computes.

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THE STANDARD KLUG BEGINNER'S PRESENTATION - LINUX BOOT CAMP!!!
http://kalamazoolinux.org/presentations/beginner01.html
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Note:
As Linux matures as an OS, the educational needs are evolving.
The Beginner's Meeting format is changing with those needs.
It is difficult to cover all the basics in one meeting.  Linux
is not just for CS experts and IT professionals.  The "BASICS"
meetings are intended for those with limited experience with
Operating System's or even Personal Computer's.  Your comments
and questions are welcomed!

Stu Gillis has degrees in Art(Photography) and Computer Science. 
As System Administrator for Venturi Technology Partners in Kalamazoo 
he manages several Linux servers, a Sun server and supports Windows 
2000 clients when he can't pass the job on to his partner.  His first 
experience with Linux was installing RedHat 6.0 that came with a 
Learn Linux in 24 hours type book on a 486DX100. That machine ran as 
the family file server for 11 months untouched, until the 1.6GB HD 
filled up.  Stu is married with 2 teenage daughters. The Gillis 
household also maintains a small zoo consisting of 2 dogs, 2 cats, 
2 rabbits, a bird and varying numbers of tropical fish.


II.  NEXT KLUG MEETING - TUESDAY  05/13/2003   
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Samba III, Whats New  [NETWORKING]
by Adam Williams
 
Samba 3.x is a revolutionary new package, providing improved
scalability, modularity, and true integration with technologies
such as LDAP, ADS, and Kerberos V. Is there a network left 
without a Samba server quietly running on some subnet?  

- MORE INFORMATION -
http://www.samba.org
http://us1.samba.org/samba/samba.html

Adam is a network administrator based in Grand Rapids, but 
the network he deals with is all over Michigan, with a couple
of hundred workstations, running Linux and other Operating 
Systems. Not only does he deal with domain issues at work, 
but he is also the owner of the domain "whitemice.org". Adam 
has been a regular contributor to technical discussions on 
our main mailing list, both presenting and solving some of 
the most challenging networking and configuration problems.


III.   K L U G    M A I L I N G    L I S T S  - 
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http://kalamazoolinux.org/listserv/
Facilitated by - John Bridleman listmaster@kalamazoolinux.org   
Sign up and participate to serve the Open Source community!!! 


IV.   K L U G    &    L I N U X     N E W S    F L A S H E S ! ! ! 
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ORACLE AND RED HAT OFFER COLLABORATION AT LESS THAN ONE-THIRD
the cost of Microsoft.  With Oracle Collaboration Suite on Red 
Hat Enterprise Linux, you save money from consolidating 
collaboration applications and from using the low-cost and 
highly reliable Linux infrastructure.  Don't miss the 
opportunity to learn more about Red Hat Enterprise Linux 
and Oracle Collaboration Suite. 
http://www.oracle.com/start/redhatblitz/intro.html?
src=1706607&Act=4
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RED HAT RELEASES X86_64 TECHNOLOGY PREVIEW, GINGIN
"Red Hat announced today it's release of GinGin64, a 
"Technology Preview" (read: not beta) of Red Hat's AMD64 
technology. You can grab a copy here or at one of Red Hat's 
various mirrors. Though the version number listed in the 
release notes is 8.0.95, inside sources say it's based on 
Red Hat 9 plus some updates."  
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/05/02/
1131206&mode=thread&tid=110&tid=142&tid=187
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GENERAL HUGH SHELTON ELECTED TO RED HAT BOARD OF DIRECTORS
Former presidential advisor and U.S. military leader joins 
Red Hat to guide strategy.  RALEIGH, NC—April 30, 2003—Red 
Hat, Inc., the world's premier open source and Linux provider, 
today announced that, General H. Hugh Shelton, former Chairman 
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and counsel to the President, has 
joined Red Hat's board of directors. 
http://www.redhat.com/about/presscenter/2003/press_shelton.html
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KLUG'S ANDREW THOMPSON VISITS PENGUICOM!!!
"Live From PenguiCon! - On Sat, 2003-05-03 at 17:45, Andrew 
Thompson wrote: Well, I've had a chance to meet, however briefly, 
with pretty much everyone I wanted here, including Eric Raymond, 
Pete Abrams, Illiad and, a pleasant unexpected surprise, Marcel 
Gagné, writer of the Linux Journal's Cooking With Linux column. 
I asked both the Mssrs. Gagné and Raymond about speaking over in
the 'Zoo, and both seemed interested.  Eric said he was taking 
fewer speaking engagements now because they're so exhausting, 
and Marcel and his wife did comment on the length of the trip 
down. However, they did seem interested."
ANDREW THOMPSON IS THE INSTALLMASTER OF KLUG!!!
http://penguicon.sourceforge.net/
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REVIEW OF SUSE V8.2
"The Register has a glowing review of Suse 8.2. Wow, the Register 
can actually be nice?"  
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/05/01/1530210
&mode=thread&tid=143&tid=185&tid=106&tid=187
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SUSE ROLLS OUT CARRIER=GRADE LINUX
As the Linux operating system continues to break new ground and 
win new customers, SuSE Linux A.G. will on Tuesday announce the 
availability of a Carrier-Grade Linux (CGL) edition of SuSE Linux 
Enterprise Server, while IBM will open a new Linux competency 
center in London that is focused on the British financial community.  
SuSE's CGL, which SuSE developed along with HP, IBM and Intel Corp., 
is initially targeted at Intel-based hardware platforms. It also 
incorporates technologies defined by the Open Source Development 
Lab's Carrier Grade Linux Working Group. 
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1047502,00.asp
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/04/29/
HNsusecarrier_1.html?platforms
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MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU
"Semantics aside, this week I proposed to take the other side of 
the argument--that Open Source is here to stay. And of course it 
is, in that nobody is trying to make it illegal to give away 
software..." 
http://linuxtoday.com/developer/2003050300426OPSWDV
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AVAILABLE TO THE RIGHT BUYER: SUN MICROSYSTEMS
"The Seattle Times reports Sun Microsystems shares surged forward 
on speculation the computer maker may be bought by a rival 
company. Prospective buyers could include Dell, IBM or 
Hewlett-Packard. Computer sales of rival companies have been 
outpacing sales of Sun's machines. Over the past three years 
Sun's stock has declined 92 percent."  
http://slashdot.org/articles/03/05/04/1335231.shtml?tid=102&
tid=98&tid=99&tid=187
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PENGUIN CRACKS WINDOWS SERVERS
"Sources close to the Redmond giant say the company is training 
140 of its systems staff on Linux and Java - because it now realizes
Windows technologies will need to co-exist and interoperate with 
them in many enterprises."
http://www.it-director.com/article.php?id=3768
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THE MUST-FIX LIST FOR LINUX KERNEL V2.6.0
"Andrew Morton posted a lengthy list of items that need to be done 
before the 2.5 development kernel tree should be turned into the 
2.6 stable kernel tree. He prefaced his list by noting that 2.6.0 
does not mean, "it's finished, ship it", alternatively offering, 
"I'd propose that 2.6.0 means that users can migrate from 2.4.x 
with a good expectation that everything which they were using in 
2.4 will continue to work, and that the kernel doesn't crash, 
doesn't munch their data and doesn't run like a dog. Other 
definitions are welcome.""  
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/30/
1423234&mode=thread
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PETRELEY ON SIMPLIFYING SOFTWARE INSTALLATION FOR LINUX
"RAM, bandwidth, and disk space are cheap while system 
administrator time is expensive. That's the basis for 
Nicholas Petreley's 3,250-word outline for making Linux 
software installation painless and cross-distro." The 
summary paragraph gives some hint as to why this isn't 
likely to happen anytime soon."
http://slashdot.org/articles/03/05/04/1242229.shtml?
tid=185&tid=106
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STALLMAN MEETS KDE TEAM FOR TEA
"Trying to improve relations, the french KDE team invited RMS 
to tea at Linux Solutions 2003. From the piece: 'He asked 
whether KDE people were saying "Gnu/Linux" or just "Linux", 
and Open Source or Free Software. I told him some of us are 
using KDE/Gnu/Linux which pleased him as an answer.' Many 
pearls in the article."  
http://slashdot.org/articles/03/05/03/1851231.shtml?tid=
117&tid=189&tid=121&tid=99
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OPENOFFICE.ORG: OPENOFFICE.ORG V1.1: ONE YEAR LATER
"A year ago today, 2002-05-01, OpenOffice.org 1.0 was released. 
Since then, around 10 million people have downloaded the 
application from the volunteer mirror network..." 
http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2003050201626OSCYSW
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TOP 100 GAMES OF ALL TIME DECIDED - AGAIN!!!
"An article at MSNBC.com about a new list of the top 100 games 
ever. This time it was staffers at Entertainment Weekly and the 
games TV station G4 who decided the list, and the article only
mentions the 5 highest-rated titles, which include Legend Of 
Zelda, Doom and Tetris. Which games would you have included in 
your list?"
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/05/03/0314234
&mode=thread&tid=127&tid=186
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MICROSOFT ROLLS OUT ILOO - (WEB SURFING COMES A CRAPPER)
"According to this CNet article, Microsoft is using England as 
a test bed for the iLoo -- a 'PortaJohn' that allows the 'user' 
to surf the net while taking care of 'business.' MSN is even 
looking at getting TP manufacturers to create some of their 
product with URL's printed on them. Pooptastic!" Life does 
not imitate the Onion. No, sir."
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/05/02/188215
&mode=thread&tid=109&tid=133&tid=186&tid=187
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SEARCHING FOR THE OLDEST RUNNING APPLICATION
"A columnist from InternetWeek has completed a search for the 
oldest running commercial software application. His results 
are interesting (note that he's mostly skipping over mainframe 
applications, just looking at PC-based apps)."
SOMEONE HAS TO STILL BE RUNNING VISICALC ON THEIR APPLE II+
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/05/02/1732201
&mode=thread&tid=185
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YELLOW DOG LINUX V3.0 HITS MIRRORS
"After checking periodically for the past couple days, I 
noticed that YDL 3.0 has hit the mirrors, a day early (in 
fact, the WEB page still says it's not available, but the 
mirrors at the bottom are carrying it)."
http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/05/02/1855225
&mode=thread&tid=185&tid=106
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SCO CLAIMS KERNEL CONTAINS UNIXWARE CODE (SCO INSANE!!!)
"SCO has increased the intensity of the lawsuit with IBM 
by claiming to hold indisputable proof that copyrighted 
UnixWare code found its way into Linux, violating the rules 
of both camps. Whether this is true or not remains to be 
seen: SCO refuses to divulge the code in question, however 
they promise to reveal it in court shortly."  
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/05/02/179259
&mode=thread&tid=190&tid=185&tid=130&tid=99&tid=123
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2134178,00.html
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IBM DENIES CHARGES OF UNIX THEFT
"C|net is reporting that SCO has filed a lawsuit accusing 
IBM of theft of it's Unix intellectual property. SCO alleges 
this occurred because IBM released portions of the Unix 
system, owned by SCO, in to Linux." While the suit is 
nothing new, IBM's retort is. IBM asserts it is innocent 
of any charges of wrongdoing. Additionally, IBM is accusing 
SCO of trying to stifle Linux development through the use 
of the courts."
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/05/02/
0024248&mode=thread&tid=136&tid=88&tid=187
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NET ATTACK CRUSHES SCO WEB SITE (HMMMM!)
An avalanche of data blocked access to the SCO Group's Web 
site for several hours Friday, said the company, which has 
come under fire from Linux fans for an ongoing lawsuit 
against IBM.
http://news.com.com/2100-1002_3-999584.html
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OPENBSD V3.3 RELEASED
"OpenBSD 3.3 was released today, with many new features, 
including integration of the ProPolice stack protection 
technology, W^X ('write xor X') on sparc, alpha and hppa, 
privilege separated XFree86 and an incredible number of 
enhancements and stability improvements to the packet 
filter, pf, including address pools for reverse NAT/load 
balancing, ALTQ integration for network conditioning, and 
anchors/tables/spamd for spam tar-pitting. Information on 
the release can be found here and download sites are 
listed here. (Also, here's a handy way to speed up your 
DSL connection - prioritizing empty TCP ACKs and ToS 
low-delay traffic with OpenBSD 3.3's pf.)"  
http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/05/01/048229
&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=190&tid=185&tid=122&tid=172
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UPCOMING FREEBSD V5.1 RELEASE SCHEDULE
"FreeBSD Release Engineering Team has posted the schedule 
for the Release of FreeBSD 5.1 late spring. FreeBSD-5 stable 
roadmap, announced earlier, outlines the future of FreeBSD-5 
stable releases, specifically 5.1 and 5.2."  
http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/05/02/
1815254&mode=thread&tid=190&tid=185&tid=122
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BEYOND LINUX FROM SCRATCH V1.0 RELEASED
"DistroWatch reports about the 1.0 release of Beyond Linux 
>From Scratch (BLFS), a subproject of Linux From Scratch: 
'The BLFS Development team is proud to announce the release 
of BLFS 1.0. With this release, you can take your LFS 4.1 
base beyond a development system. It can be a desktop, a 
firewall, a multimedia player/editor, an Apache web server 
or all of the above. You install only what you need. Your 
Distro. Your Rules. Enjoy.'"
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/30/
1236211&mode=thread&tid=185&tid=106
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EIFFELSTUDIO V5.3 FOR LINUX RELEASED
"It seems today is the release date of the best damn free IDE 
available today for Linux,EiffelStudio version 5.3, they have 
both a free and Enterprise version available. Why Eiffel's 
not classed as a mainstream language is beyond me, goodies 
include full concurrent engineering, amazing debugging, 
browsing and documentation facilities that even your dog 
would find easy use, plus a Mac OS X version is in the 
works with a beta available for download soon. Design by 
Contract here I come!"  
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/05/02/
1113232&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=156
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802.11 WIRELESS SECURITY
"Having played around with wireless networking at home a 
little bit, and then being faced with implementing a wireless 
network at the office for the purposes of in-house customer 
training in a cosmetically clean room (wires are ugly), I had 
been thinking for some time about the best way to implement a 
secure wireless networking solution. Amusingly enough, shortly 
after the idea of a wireless network at the office came up, I 
managed to win 802.11 Security in a raffle at the Kernel Panic 
Linux Users' Group monthly meeting. The book was thoughtfully 
donated (with a few others) by O'Reilly on the condition that 
the recipients contribute reviews. Since I've found the book 
genuinely helpful, I thought I'd let others know, and hence, 
my first Slashdot book review. Hooray!" This book emphasizes 
a multi-layer approach to wireless security;
http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/29/
2339215&mode=thread&tid=137&tid=193
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OPEN SOURCE DESIGN TOOLS?
"Recently, my broadened responsibilities have me doing some 
database design and modeling, and I'm happy for the new 
knowledge and experience, but I'm a bit frustrated about 
the tool selection. I know most of us have had plenty of 
experience with at least a handful of all the wonderful 
Open Source development tools out there (like GCC, GNU Make, 
Subversion , and Perl to name a few). My question is this: 
where are OpenSource design tools? I've tried what I could 
find on SourceForge, but (as usual?) most of the projects 
that sounded promising were either still in the planning 
stages or seemed abandoned. Of course something which 
allowed be to create nifty class charts and output them to 
UML and/or SQL would be really cool, but I've yet to find 
something that works (especially in Linux). What are your 
favorite Open Source design tools and what do you like 
about them?"  
http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/30/2212200
&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=156
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FREE DOCUMENTATION BASE - DOCS.EU.ORG ONLINE
"Docs.eu.org is a free documentation portal, trying to gather 
and to distribute computer science free documentation; we try 
to stay as open as possible on documentations we include. We 
gathered an amount of 500 Mo of documentation (linux, 
programming languages, free software philosophy, and so), 
some of them are standards that you can find everywhere, 
some other are more rarely referenced; hope this help. Enjoy :)"  
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/29/
0138231&mode=thread
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OPERA CEO: LINUX BIG PART OF THE COMPANY'S FUTURE
Note that in absolute numbers Windows is still more important 
than Linux from Opera's viewpoint. This may change over time, 
especially now that Opera is releasing its Windows and Linux 
versions at the same time instead of allowing Linux releases 
to lag.
http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/04/26/1310230.shtml
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NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED
IBM has hired most of the Apache team. IBM has some major 
pull on what work gets done and does not get done. In some 
cases, it is frustrating, and other cases not. However, 
everybody just accepts it because IBM is paying the bills 
and people can do what they love. Is there an official IBM 
party line at Apache? Absolutely not! It is just that none 
of the Apache developers will talk negatively about IBM, 
even those that do not work at IBM. So in this sense, it 
already appears that Apache has been hijacked.
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20030424.html
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FLYWEIGHT LINUX PC COMES OUT SWINGING
The tiny $500 PC sports a Via Eden or C-series processor 
and 256MB of RAM. The standard M-100 ships with 64MB of 
CompactFlash memory holding the MediaBox embedded Linux 
operating system.
http://news.com.com/2100-1042-998203.html
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MYTHS OF LINUX ON THE DESKTOP
Supported versions of Linux are not free. What is basically 
free (or free to copy and distribute) are consumer versions 
of Linux and distributions that may be downloaded from the 
Web. Enterprises that use these distributions will have to 
rely on the open-source community for support. This is not 
necessarily a bad thing, and enterprises in some more-remote 
geographies point out that open-source support can be better 
than what they've been paying vendors for.
http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/
0,14179,2913456,00.html
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IF I HAD MY OWN DISTRO
The polish that Red Hat and Mandrake have added to their 
consumer-grade Linux offerings have meant a lot to users 
like me, those who use it as their main desktop OS. Finally, 
these distributions are starting to look like a professional 
quality operating system. One of the main problems, the way 
I see it, is what I call "marketspace crowding." There are 
so many distributions, so many flavors that are, when it 
really boils down to it, just semi-clones of one another 
with one good tool or one little tweak added or modified. 
The idea of roll-your-own distribution has left the market 
saturated with many similar distributions, and even those 
"in the know" don't know how to properly choose a 
distribution. The solution should be to make your 
distribution stand out, and in order to do that, you can
take advantage of the opportunity to do some things right.
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3431
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WE NEED MORE LIKE THIS: LINUXFEST NORTHWEST 2003
This community event had lectures, presentations, raffles
--and no admission fee.  LinuxFest NorthWest 2003 was a 
resounding success. It was held in the city of Bellingham, 
Washington, which is about 90 miles North of Seattle and 
about 20 miles South of the Canadian border.
For the past three years, LinuxFest has been held by the 
Bellingham Linux Users Group (BLUG). For 2003, BLUG teamed 
up with several other Linux Users Groups: the Tacoma Linux 
Users Group (TACLUG), the Greater Seattle Linux Users Group 
(GSLUG), and the Kitsap Peninsula Seattle Linux Users Group 
(KPLUG). The group effort made for a bigger event, with much 
more publicity. 
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6839&mode=thread&order=0
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THE PENGUIN AND THE 'DINOSAUR'
"The Linux open source operating system and mainframe hardware 
platforms--once considered to be headed for extinction--make 
the perfect marriage, according to IBM Corp's Edward Gauthier..." 
http://linuxtoday.com/high_performance/2003050200926NWHESV
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              I T   I S   P A R T Y   T I M E  ! ! !
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KLUG 4TH OF JULY  P A R T Y  IS POSTED ON THE WEB SITE - RSVP ASAP!  
Go to the KLUG web site for the details and to sign up if you are 
planning on attending the KLUG 4TH of July party this year. PARTY!!!  

THE DETAILS  
http://kalamazoolinux.org/party/p-details.php
RSVP
http://kalamazoolinux.org/party/rsvp.php

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[  *** N O T E   D A T E   C O R R E C T I O N ***  ]
BUSINESS EXPO IS PLANNED FOR THURSDAY MAY 22ND AT THE RADISSON HOTEL.
The Kalamazoo Chamber of Commerce will be holding another business
exposition in the Grand Ballroom at the Radisson Plaza Hotel.  There
will be an "IT Zone" designated that will highlight digital technology.   
A KLUG speaker is also needed to make a presentation in the IT Zone's 
program.  Please contact Bob at publicitydirector@kalamazoolinux.org
if you can volunteer as a presenter for this event.
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KLUG NEEDS VOLUNTEERS TO FILL SEVERAL VACANT POSITIONS 
Nutrimaster and Education Director volunteer slots are still 
vacant.  We need additional volunteers to act as the "Meeting 
Firewall" to handle Chamber access control and security issues. 
The Chamber has asked us to safeguard their assets as KLUG 
members come and go from the meeting room each Tuesday night. 
Bob and Zac need help with this function which requires that 
you get to the meetings early and see that the everything is 
locked up as the last person leaves.  This means being at the 
Chamber at 6:30pm and hanging around until 10:00pm. We have 
other volunteer positions available and many of these duties 
could be shared if you have an interest.  GET INVOLVED IN KLUG! 
Volunteers are needed for Beginner's Nights and Installfests. 
Please contact installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org for more details. 
See http://kalamazoolinux.org/organize for position descriptions. 
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KLUG NEEDS SPEAKERS FOR THE WEEKLY LINUX RELATED PRESENTATIONS! 
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Contact Adam if you can give a presentation on any area of Linux 
related subject or application.  He would also like to hear your 
suggestions for topics and possible speaker referrals.  Do you 
know anyone who is using Linux in Southwest Michigan and might 
be willing to share their Linux expertise by making a technical 
presentation?  Professional, individual, or commercial speakers 
on Linux accepted.  Contact programdirector@kalamazoolinux.org 
with your referrals and ideas.  See the meeting schedule for open 
dates.   http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/meetings/schedule.php3
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V.   K L U G    C O N T A C T   &   M E E T I N G    I N F O  
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MEMBERS AND GUESTS - COME JOIN US FOR A MEETING!!! 
http://kalamazoolinux.org/meetings           
WE MEET WEEKLY, EACH TUESDAY AT 7:00PM.      
                                             
Our meeting site is the Kalamazoo Chamber    
of Commerce office building downtown.          
346 W. Michigan Ave. - Kalamazoo, MI  49007 
http://kazoolug.org/meetings/maps.php3   <=== MAP! 

CONTACT INFORMATION: 
Kalamazoo Linux Users Group, Inc. 
6749 South Westnedge Avenue 
Suite K-288 
Portage  MI 49002 
e-mail address: chair@kalamazoolinux.org


                         Copyright 2003                 
                 Kalamazoo Linux Users Group, Inc. 
  >><< send corrections, additions, flames to the KLUG scribe >><< 
                          Ralph Worick 
                recordingsecretary@kalamazoolinux.org
                               = or = 
                 KLUG Meeting Notes Assistant Editor 
                          Bruce Atherton 
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