[KLUG Members] KLUG Meeting Notes for 10/07/2003

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07 Oct 2003 23:46:59 -0400


KLUG Meeting Notes:  Tuesday - October 7, 2003  7:00PM       

I.    PRESENTATION RECAP    
II.   NEXT WEEK'S MEETING INFO   <===  Dueling VPNs!!!   
III.  KLUG MAILING LISTS                  
IV.   KLUG & LINUX NEWS FLASHES 
V.    KLUG CONTACT & MEETING INFO 

Tonight's Meeting Moderator:  KLUG Chairperson:  Todd Pillars 

I.  PRESENTATION RECAP           
THIS WEEK'S KLUG PRESENTATION:   (19 active KLUG participants) 
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Linux for Beginners
by Todd Pillars
  
THE BEGINNER'S MEETINGS ARE HELD the first Tuesday of each
month.  Linux basics and distribution installs are the
lessons of these evenings.  If you do want KLUG's FREE help
installing Linux on your computer at one of these meetings,
  
http://kalamazoolinux.org/meetings/installform.html
Contact the KLUG Installmasters for more information:
installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org  
 - and -
ORDER YOUR SOFTWARE HERE:  http://kalamazoolinux.org/bsware
 
Now is the time to get started!  Linux is becoming a mainstay
of free software, free choice, dependability and power.

PRESENTATION SUMMARY:
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We had the standard KLUG Beginner's Night introductions while
the two people getting help with installs got their equipment
assembled.  BS-Ware v9 was selected as the Linux distribution
for both of the installs tonight.  

We had a few first-time KLUG meeting attendees tonight!  There
were plenty of good questions and lots of Linux information
being exchanged while the KLUG Installmaster - Andrew Thompson
helped John and Jack get their PC's running BS-Ware v9.  Robert
G. Brown jumped in to help Jack with his hard drive and modem
configuration questions.  Jack had already installed BS-Ware v9
on his hot rod Athlon 2.1GHz with 512Mb RAM at the KLUG install 
session in September.  John's laptop was smoothly flying through
the install interface for Red Hat v9 and ahead is the final 
configuration of various services.

Dirk Bartley was demonstrating Linux concepts to a small group
on a KLUG LTSP client PC on one side of the room.  Todd Pillars
was leading a group exploring Samba.  They were using a laptop
running Linux and a laptop running Windows connected to the local 
network in this demonstration.  There were questions about how
to access Windows files from the Linux box with Samba running.

Bruce Smith and John Bridleman were busy working on the KRAP
project.  They are part of a KLUG group implementing nocat auth
on a Linux machine to control access to the wireless network at 
the Chamber.  Looked like they were making progress and that it
should be up and ready to go soon.

There was a group near the snacks that were newer to Linux
and asking many good newbie Windows vs. Linux questions.  
Several people entered into this orientation conversation 
and several good novice resources were shared.  One good
question was how to make the important Linux boot disk.  

The new KLUG Beginner's Night presentation is being updated.
The GUI has become a more common interface than the 'command 
line preferred' days when the current KLUG Beginner's guide
was written.  We accomplished the education mission with the 
small group format but it won't be long before we have a new 
teaching tool to help us to welcome those new to Linux.

Thanks to the KLUG Nutrimaster - William Jordan for the tasty 
selection of snacks & beverages that added to the hospitality.

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THE STANDARD KLUG BEGINNER'S PRESENTATION - LINUX BOOT CAMP!!!
http://kalamazoolinux.org/presentations/beginner01.html - OLD -
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Note:
As Linux matures as an OS, the educational needs are evolving.
The Beginner's Meeting format is changing with those needs.
It is difficult to cover all the basics in one meeting.  Linux
is not just for CS experts and IT professionals.  The "BASICS"
meetings are intended for those with limited experience with
Operating System's or even Personal Computer's.  Your comments
and questions are welcomed!

Todd Pillars is the Chairperson of KLUG!  His first PC 
was a 1981 TRS-80 Model 3 2.03Mhz, 16K ram, 5 1/4 floppy
running TRS-DOS and QBASIC.  In 1997 he started running
a web development company that hosted web sites with Red
Hat 5.2.  He was named the Executive Director of Southwest
Michigan Information Technology Institute in 2003.  SMITI
provides education and alternatives to proprietary OS's and
software. They supply technology to small startup companies. 
He has memberships in KLUG, Chamber of Commerce, and GLIMA.
Admittedly a HUGE Detroit Red Wings fan who loves NASCAR too.


II.  NEXT KLUG MEETING - TUESDAY  10/14/2003   
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Dueling VPNs: OpenVPN & PPTP (Shorts)
by Bruce Smith and Adam Williams 

Tonight Bruce Smith will explain OpenVPN (OPEN Virtual Private 
Network) and Adam Williams will explain PPTP (Point-To-Point 
Tunneling Protocol). OpenVPN is a simple yet secure VPN 
technology with Linux server/client support and clients for 
Windows 2000/XP. PPTP is the VPN technology from the 
M$-Windows world, with servers and clients for the Linux 
platform as well.

Check out these sites:

http://openvpn.sourceforge.net/

http://www.schneier.com/pptp.html

Bruce Smith is a Systems Administrator and Software Developer 
for Armstrong International Inc. where he is responsible for 
a Unix and Linux network of Servers, Workstations, printers 
and X-Terminals spanning five buildings in Three Rivers. Bruce 
has a degree in Computer Science and Mathematics from Central
Michigan University. (go Chippewas! :)  Bruce recently joined 
Heiko Zuerker's team as a core developer on the CD-based Devil 
Linux (firewall) distribution.  He also creates the  BSware 
distribution for KLUG, is co-webmaster, sitemaster, and is a 
past KLUG officer.

Adam Williams is a network administrator based in Grand Rapids, 
but the network he deals with is all over Michigan, with a couple 
of hundred workstations, running Linux and other Operating Systems. 
Not only does he deal with domain issues at work, but he is also 
the owner of the domain "whitemice.org". Adam has been a regular 
contributor to technical discussions on our main mailing list, 
both presenting and solving some of the most challenging networking 
and configuration problems.  Adam is known as an LDAP wizard in
the global Linux community and has written a classic piece that
explains how it works and what is necessary to get LDAP functional.  
He is also part of the early core of organizers and nurturers of
KLUG and has served as Program Director for many years, providing
the content of KLUG's world class educational meetings each week.
The Eloquent Master of Ceremonies and originator of the legendary
KLUG GEEK JEOPARDY EXTRAVAGANZA provides stellar answers in search 
of those categorized Linux culture focused questions.   
BE THERE OR ELSE!!!  OCTOBER 28th IS THE PARTY DATE!!!


III.   K L U G    M A I L I N G    L I S T S  - 
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Diversified mailing lists can be found on the KLUG web site. 
http://kalamazoolinux.org/listserv/
Facilitated by - John Bridleman  listmaster@kalamazoolinux.org   
Sign up and participate to serve the Open Source community!!! 
(240 plus registrations on the "KLUG members" mailing list)


IV.   K L U G    &    L I N U X     N E W S    F L A S H E S ! ! ! 
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MONO V2.8 RELEASED (OSS OF M$ .NET)
"A new version of Mono(2.8) has been released: Mono has now integrated 
SourceGear's webservice enhancements, and there has been a lot of 
improvement in XML, serialization and web services. Other features 
are new thread locking and ahead-of-time compiler optimizations."
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/05/
1846213&mode=thread&tid=109&tid=126&tid=156&tid=170&tid=187
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OPENOFFICE.ORG HITS V1.1
"OpenOffice.org 1.1.0 has finally been released (after 5 release 
candidates -- should make it pretty sweet). The announcement is here, 
there is a really nice features page and a long list of mirrors 
carrying the goodies."
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/01/182237
&mode=thread&tid=102&tid=162&tid=185&tid=187&tid=99
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WILL VANDERPOOL MAKE LINUX MORE POPULAR?
"New Scientist is reporting that Intel's forthcoming multi-core 
processor architecture, codenamed "Vanderpool", could undermine 
Microsoft's dominance by letting other operating systems run 
simultaneously more easily. From the article: 'The chip will allow 
future machines to run, say, Windows XP together with Linux or the 
Apple operating system as easily as today's Windows computers run 
Word and Internet Explorer simultaneously.'"  
http://slashdot.org/articles/03/10/06/1723238.shtml?tid=185&tid=190
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MANAGING LINUX SYSTEMS WITH WEBMIN
Book Review: "Webmin is a pretty neat tool for administering a server 
using a GUI, particularly remotely. Managing Linux Systems with 
Webmin, written by Webmin's author, Jamie Cameron, is an extensive 
look at using and extending it, a good guide not without flaws." 
http://books.slashdot.org/books/03/10/02/1551210.
shtml?tid=106&tid=126&tid=185&tid=188&tid=192&tid=95
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SAMBA EXPERT DIGS INTO V3.0 UPGRADE
"Some key features make Samba 3.0 a better mousetrap than Samba 2.0 
for Windows-Linux file and print sharing, says Samba Team co-founder 
John H. Terpstra..." 
http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2003100300626INSVSW
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EFF REVIEWS 5 YEARS UNDER THE DMCA
"The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) has a new report, 
Unintended Consequences: Five Years under the DMCA, detailing how 
the DMCA has stifled competition, innovation, scientific research,
and fair use. The original news release is here, and the report is 
also available as a PDF. Check it out if you want a good summary of 
all the DMCA cases over the past five years."
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/04/219200
&mode=thread&tid=103&tid=153&tid=158&tid=99
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OPEN SOURCE MAKING INROADS IN SMALL BUSINESSES
"In a story mainly about new OpenOffice release, NewsFactor Network 
quotes an interesting finding of Jupiter Research analyst: 
"Open-source productivity suites did "surprisingly well" in the 
mid-size business market, with the OpenOffice suite alone claiming
a share of about 6%. Furthermore, [Joe Wilcox] found that some 19% 
of small businesses ran Linux on their desktop, and a whopping 26% 
ran Linux on their servers.""  
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/03/1254238
&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=163
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NEGOTIATING PAY FOR OPEN SOURCE WORK?
"For about nine months now I've been working on an Open Source 
software project; the first release was five months ago. It's 
reasonably popular given its age -- several hundred users at least 
(users, not downloads) -- but despite my best attempts, I've been 
unable to get even a few dollars in donations to help support this 
(and being a student, I really need to get some money from somewhere).
Now suddenly I've been approached by a company which wants to pay me 
to continue working on this project.
http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/02/1913216
&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=156&tid=98&tid=99
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WHY OPEN SOURCE MAY BE DOOMED
"But of course, the object of this lawsuit is not to stop Linux from 
using the code; it's to stop Linux from eating SCO Unix's lunch. And 
it seems to me that it's very likely to succeed..."
http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2003100601726OPCDLL
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LINUX IN HOLLYWOOD:  STATUS REPORT
"TechNewsWorld is running an article about Linux in Hollywood. The 
article describes speed advantages, cost advantages, movies in which 
Linux played a role (including Shrek, Star Wars, and Titanic). 
Mentions of the embrace for Linux with history on Apple, Microsoft, 
and other vendors, and how they've adapted to the use.`As a rule, 
no major studio will rely on a tool without access to the source 
code. The risk is too great.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/30/2250233
&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=152&tid=163&tid=185&tid=188&tid=97
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OPENSSL SECURITY VULNERABILITY
"On the heels of multiple OpenSSH vulnerabilities, the OpenSSL 
project is now reporting a number of security vulnerabilities of 
its own. OpenSSL is a standard cryptographic library used in a 
wide variety of security applications. The new vulnerabilities 
range from denial-of-service attacks to stack corruption, which 
imply the possibility of running malicious code."
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/30/2039241
&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=148&tid=172&tid=185
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LINUX VS. WINDOWS VIRUSES
"There are about 60,000 viruses known for Windows, 40 or so for 
the Macintosh, about 5 for commercial Unix versions, and perhaps 
40 for Linux. Most of the Windows viruses are not important, but 
many hundreds have caused widespread damage. Two or three of the 
Macintosh viruses were widespread enough to be of importance. None 
of the Unix or Linux viruses became widespread - most were confined 
to the laboratory."
http://www.linux.org/news/2003/10/06/0002.html
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SKIPPER ACCESSIBILITY SUITE V1.6.0 RELEASED
Skipper 1.6.0 is a GPLed Linux accessibility suite for the severely 
physically disabled - cerebral palsy, road traffic accidents, motor 
neuron disease, Parkinsons etc. It takes input from multiple devices 
like graphics tablets and microswitches connected directly to the 
printer port, does input switching and processing (configured 
graphically like modular synthesisers), and provides clever 
genetically annealed menu systems for application and desktop 
control. With just one detectable click, people can have full 
Web and email access - in fact the whole Linux desktop - in 
complete privacy.
http://www.linux.org/news/2003/10/02/0011.html
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KLUG MAKES LINUX AVAILABLE AT THE LOCAL COMPUTER SHOW 
A team of KLUG volunteers and officers were on hand at the last
fairgrounds computer show to tell people about KLUG and Linux.
They talked with lots of people and demonstrated Linux for many.
BS-Ware was readily available with nice labels and jewel cases. 
To volunteer for a future show contact: showperson@kalamazoolinux.org
http://www.a1scs.com   <--- Check schedule
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IN THE OPEN SOURCE SPIRIT KLUG CALLS FOR MEETING SUPPORT VOLUNTEERS
Please don't make us RANT about organization needs for volunteers!
We need additional volunteers to act as the "Meeting Firewall" 
to handle Chamber access control and security issues.  The Chamber
has asked us to safeguard their assets as KLUG members come and 
go from the meeting room each Tuesday night.  Bob truly does need 
help with this function which requires that you get to the meetings
early and see that everything is locked up as the meeting attendees 
leave.  We have several other KLUG volunteer positions available
and many of these duties could be shared if you have an interest.  
G E T      I N V O L V E D      I N      K L U G    N O W ! ! !  
Please contact installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org for more details. 
See http://kalamazoolinux.org/organize for position descriptions.
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THE WMU COMPUTER CLUB - YAKKO IS THEIR MAIN LINUX SERVER!
The Computer Club at Western Michigan University exists to promote 
a better understanding of computers for both members of the club 
and members of the WMU community. This goal is achieved through 
various club projects, member presentations, Linux Install Parties, 
and discussions at our meetings. Do you need help getting your 
computer to function properly? Are you interested in installing 
Linux? Do you just want a place to hang out and have a good time? 
If the answer to any of those questions or any other question is 
'yes' then you should come check us out. We welcome anyone 
(regardless of computer experience) who is willing to share 
whatever talents they have, listen to others, and have a good 
time.   http://yakko.cs.wmich.edu/
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KLUG SUPPORTING MEMBERS CAN GET THEIR PICTURE ON THE WEB SITE
Want your picture posted with your name as a KLUG Supporting
Member?  Send the tasteful graphic file and your request to 
webmaster@kalamazoolinux.org. 
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KLUG NOW OWNS A NEW XGA VIDEO PROJECTOR
Adam reported that KLUG has upgraded the video projector from SVGA
to XGA!!!  From 800 x 600 to 1024 x 768, it should boost presentation
viewing pleasure.  This projector is well rated: 
INFOCUS LP335 DLP PROJECTOR   
1000 LUMEN - XGA - LP-0335-V + Extended 12 month warranty
Digital Light Processing DLP which provides sharp images under 
variable lighting conditions.  
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KLUG NEEDS VOLUNTEERS TO FILL SEVERAL VACANT POSITIONS 
"Firewall" and Education Director volunteer slots are still vacant. 
Please contact chair@kalamazoolinux.org for more details. 
Volunteers are needed for Beginner's Nights and Install fests.  
Please contact installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org for more details. 
See http://kalamazoolinux.org/organize for position descriptions. 
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KLUG NEEDS SPEAKERS FOR THE WEEKLY LINUX RELATED PRESENTATIONS! 
********* - ********* - ********* - ********* - ********* - *********  
Contact Adam if you can give a presentation on any area of Linux 
related subject or application.  He would also like to hear your 
suggestions for topics and possible speaker referrals.  Do you 
know anyone who is using Linux in Southwest Michigan and might 
be willing to share their Linux expertise by making a technical 
presentation?  Professional, individual, or commercial speakers 
on Linux accepted.  Contact programdirector@kalamazoolinux.org 
with your referrals and ideas.  See the meeting schedule for open 
dates.   http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/meetings/schedule.php3
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V.   K L U G    C O N T A C T   &   M E E T I N G    I N F O  
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KLUG WEB SITE  http://kalamazoolinux.org

MEMBERS AND GUESTS - COME JOIN US FOR A MEETING!!! 
http://kalamazoolinux.org/meetings           
WE MEET WEEKLY, EACH TUESDAY AT 7:00PM.      
                                             
Our meeting site is the Kalamazoo Chamber    
of Commerce office building downtown.          
346 W. Michigan Ave. - Kalamazoo, MI  49007 
http://kazoolug.org/meetings/maps.php3   <=== MAP! 

CONTACT INFORMATION: 
Kalamazoo Linux Users Group, Inc. 
6749 South Westnedge Avenue 
Suite K-288 
Portage  MI 49002 
e-mail address: chair@kalamazoolinux.org

NOTE:
Effective January 1st, 2002, KLUG has been granted 501C3 status by 
the IRS. This is a big step forward. Now all donations (including 
hardware, services, cash, or membership dues) are tax deductible!
                 
                  
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