[KLUG Members] Dropping CIS enrollments

[Adam Williams]

> >> IMO "the word" is out, post tech-bust, post-9/11, post-Military-manuevers,
> >> post-whatever-else-youplease, that CIS/CS "ain't where it's at" anymore.
> >> The money seekers have gone elsewhere (where?)... 
> >People went into CIS for the money?!
> Once upon a time, indeed! I can't remember who was President when this
> was understood, but it happoened... honest!

Wow!  I'll tka eyour word for it.

> I've heard about that on the radio -
> The radio?!? What's that? :)

Just an antique technology I have a fondness for.

> >but never yet met an IT manager driving a Porsche.
> Not in this area (for several reasons), but in some places, it's not
> uncommon. 
> >Every "next big career" fad I've seen has been total crap.
> Perhaps so, but we're not dealing with realities here, only perceptions,
> expectations, and hype. I'm just as happy to see kids outflow from IT
> (CS or CIS) since it'll mean more demand for MY services in the future. 

Amen!
 
> Hopefully, colleges (CS and CIS degress) are more than glorified trade
> schools, and we've seen the transitory aspect of mere certs.

I think we are see-ing a re-orging of the cert word.  With some rising to
cerdibility while the chaff is swpt away;  I wonder if anyone has counted
the number of certs available in the market (different certs that is).  I
supect it has peaked and is now declining.  Maybe we should just move to a
total-cert word and forget about degrees.  Offer something like a "basic
literacy" cert, a "corporate ettiquette" cert, or even a "Can follow
instructions" cert. Then just pick applicants with the right combo.

In one sense other professions have been doing this for a long time.
After all, what is a CPA - someone who passed a test.