[KLUG Members] VPN Clients?

Adam Elkins members@kalamazoolinux.org
Thu, 5 Feb 2004 21:08:52 -0500


On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 20:16:42 -0500
Adam Williams <awilliam@whitemice.org> wrote:

> > I don't think switching is an option for me, esp. to something like SuSE
> > or RH. That's a great thing about linux right? I shouldn't need to
> > switch.
> 
> There are binary packages of pptp for all major distributions.  I assume
> from "to something like SuSE or RH" that you are not using a mainstream
> distro?

Been using slackware for 4 years... I can't seem to like anythign else

> 
> > I do have a smoothwall running. I may be confused about this pptp thing,
> > isn't that a dial-up thing? I need over Ethernet, without pppoe.
> 
> PPTP is point-to-point-tunnelling-protocol, an extenstion to PPP (point
> to point protocol) for creating end-to-end links over IP networks. 
> These links can themselves carry IP or other protocols like NetBEUI or
> IPX which is why Microsoft create/needed it - they had one SORRY excuse
> for an IP stack until VERY recently.
> 
> PPTP basically is a predessesor of PPPOE which is a superior protocol
> since it is all in-channel.  PPTP uses a GRE/IP out-of-channel session
> setup and control section that makes it a real PITA to route, proxy, and
> firewall.
> 
> But I don't know of anyway to use PPPOE as a VPN mechanism however,
> since PPPOE is PPP-Over-Ethernet, that is PPP encapsulated in frames not
> IP - so you can't route a PPPOE connection over any network where you
> aren't the administrator of the routers.
> 
That clears that up, thanks... not sure how I got confused.

Adam Elkins



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