[KLUG Members] GEEK JEOPARDY: 15 DAYS!

[Adam Tauno Williams]

> I went up to the website.  I also found some more on it that included
> some video demos.  Security-wise if they would simply do the security
> more like *nix (they are getting closer to being able to with XP)
> that would help most of the security problems.  

.NET pretty much does that.  Everything is broken down to components,
and ACLs can be applied to anything.  Actually it does UNIX one better, 
as the permissions can be applied to both 'static' objects like files
and folders and 'live' objects like processes and object instances.

Whether or not those permissions can be subverted through extra ordinary
means remains to be seen.  Remember that it took UNIX +20 years to close
most of those holes an become something that today we would consider
secure.

> The interface looks a lot like what the Mac has available now under
> Mac OS X.  Once again Bill is "stealing" from Mr. Jobs.  The Mac

Hey!  The Mac stole the concept of "widget" from X-Windows! :)

Nothing wrong with stealing, it is the underpinning of human progress.

> interface is nicer still though.  The longhorn interface suffers from
> clutter that is not in the OS X interface.  

Your not the first to cite this,  in fact it has been a frequent
complaint that you need a 21in monitor to actually do anything.

> They are doing the
> transparency thing and animated and bouncing icon stuff like in OS X.

This is progress?  First thing every power user will do is turn that
crap off.

>  When it ships we will have to listen to all the idiots that will be
> proclaiming how smart and wonderful Microslop is for inventing such
> cool new stuff for us not knowing it has been around for years!

But they'll have allot of functionality in Indigo, Avalon, WinFS, & XAML
that the Mac doesn't have any equivalent to.  Unless of course the Mac
starts to appropriate a bunch more Open Source components (which they
are free to do).  Again, nothing wrong with 'stealing'.