> do you think maybe that's it's not an Ubuntu thing but perhaps a Gnome > thing. Or is KUbuntu the same way? Just a thought... I don't know, since I haven't tried kbuntu. I'll be interesting to see how the new SuSE 9.3 does it, since it has a newer version of Gnome. My copy arrived yesterday, but I haven't had a chance to load it on anything yet... - BS