help. lol. i'm trying to vnc into a linux box from a windows box using the xfce4 desktop instead of kde. in place of "startkde &" i'm using startxfce4 &" and i only get a grey screen with a terminal open. any tips? things that i have tried... startxfce4 & xfce4 xfce4 & exec xfce4-session & -- Mark Bystry SuSE 9.3 Pro KDE 3.4.1