[KLUG Members] Intro and AU-LUG

Mike Williams knightperson at zuzax.com
Mon Jan 14 08:54:54 EST 2008


Dilbert did that too a while back.  One guy is jealous of the other's 
voice recognizing computer, and reminds him to "make sure you don't 
accidentally DELETE a FILE."

Also, I've seen numerous reports of dangerous rm behavior in early Unix 
machines.  Apparently "rm -rf .*" would delete "." (current directory of 
course), but also ".." (parent directory), and continue deleting parent 
directories all the way up the filesystem.  Current implementations are 
smarter than this, fortunately.

Seth Kramer wrote:
> Reminds me of an old UF strip. Voice recognition software is
> installed...hilarity ensues:
>
> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20010320&mode=classic
>
> On Jan 13, 2008 7:42 PM, Richard Zimmerman <ke4rit at knbpower.com> wrote:
>   
>> Greetings Eric,
>>     
>>> Our firm proudly supports the Ubuntu philosophy and we also sell and
>>> support system running Debian and Redhat based distributions.  Any
>>> experiences you can bring to us are welcome.
>>>
>>>       
>> I've been on the list since 2000 maybe 1999. The old hats will remember
>> me. I'm that guy that used to drive up from Elkhart!
>>
>> Anyhow, my experience?  First exposure was in 1995-1996 in the .78 to
>> .82 kernel days. Then I moved to Indiana and started fooling with Linux
>> again. Ran Red Hat 7.3 servers at work til RH abandoned the 7x series. I
>> switched the servers to Debian and never looked back. HATE Ubuntu for
>> only one reason. I have to sudo everything. Give me a root prompt. Y-E-S
>> I know it can be switched.
>>
>> Any rate, how would I rate Debian! Absolutely awesome and reliable as
>> long as my fingers stay off the keyboards! <grin>
>>
>> *** Disclaimer ***
>> BTW, do N-O-T type the following command if you are new to Linux or
>> never used it. It WILL cause you to have a bad day. You have been warned!
>> *** Disclaimer ***
>>
>> Back in 2002,  myself (and my employer) suffered three suicidal server
>> crashes in three days on a Debian server due to a badly placed 'rm -rf'
>> command in a script! Fortunately for me (and my job) the boss had a good
>> sense of humor about the whole issue and I got really good at disaster
>> recovery - QUICK! Lesson to be learned here children:
>>
>> A-L-W-A-Y-S specify an absolute path when using an 'rm -rf' command!
>> A-L-W-A-Y-S specify an absolute path when using an 'rm -rf' command!
>> A-L-W-A-Y-S specify an absolute path when using an 'rm -rf' command!
>>
>> Yes, it's worth repeating 3 times. Someone is always dumb enough to type
>> it in! <-- It's human nature (oh, it won't happen to me!)
>>
>> So, to help the inept who are tempted to use the above without looking
>> up what will happen first...
>>
>> rm = remove file(s)
>> -f = force (don't confirm, just do it)
>> -r = recursive (another wards, delete everything I see)
>>
>> So, now that I have given a quick newbie lesson on a command that will
>> ruin your weekend.
>>
>> What happened in my case? I was running it from inside a nightly script
>> where a directory didn't exist due to a cd (change directory) scripting
>> error. The previous directory was / <slash> or aka the root directory.
>> So executing 'rm -rf' while happily sitting in / (root dir) caused my
>> server to commit suicide.
>>
>> Fast forwarding almost 6 years now... Today, I run 6 servers in two
>> organizations and two servers at home. I've got a triple boot laptop (XP
>> Home, Debian and Vector Linux) and program in TCL, SQL (Postgresql),
>> Rivet and HTML. In case anyone cares, Debian Etch is my flavor.
>>
>> So that is my experience. Hopefully someone learns from my mistakes. One
>> day I need to make the run up there again. It's been too long!
>>
>> Richard aka Goose
>> Mishawaka, IN
>>
>> / I wonder if my old Klug shirts fit anymore???
>>
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