[KLUG Advocacy] Linux tutor.
Adam Williams
advocacy@kalamazoolinux.org
Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:55:15 -0400
> > Right, you could dial up via someone like Delphi and get into
> > sunsite.unc.edu. Gold Mine! I didn't know anything about licensing,
> > I just knew I could get it and didn't care.
> Exactly. Did software even come with a license back then?
> I don't remember, and probably didn't even look at the time.
Right.
> > Although I did learn to loath Imake.
> There's a horror from the past! Wow did that suck!!!
Yes it did. And now people complain about autogen, automake, and
configure scripts. Whatever! Just please, not Imake!
> > And restore the system image to a different workstation, with different
> > hardware - Linux cares how much? You might have to reconfigure X and
> > sound. Windows XP? Hah!
> How about "upgrades"? Got a NT workstation you'd like to make into a NT
> server? Guess what, you can't upgrade, it's reinstall time! I suspect
> the same is true today with XP (switching from home to pro or whatever).
No you can't upgrade pro -> server -> advanced server. At least so I'm
told. You can upgrade from home -> pro, I've done it. (Dumb users who
go to Best Buy and buy a laptop - then can't connect to anything.
Another $189 of their money, Oh well. I'm terribly sympathetic.)
> Not to mention if you want to upgrade 9x to NT to 2K to XP to 2003 ...
Right; you are joking?
> > Of course you did inherit some limitations - no excel, etc... But at
> > the time these really weren't considered earth shaking, if most of the
> > people even knew what a spreadsheet was (cough, most still don't but
> > think they do)
> There were (are?) spreadsheets (and word-processors) that would run on a
Sure.
> dumb terminal in a curses(-like?) interface. We ran some for awhile,
So did we.
> but once windowing environments started coming out, our users didn't
> want to have anything to do with them any longer.
True, but that didn't become an issue until the late ninties - not for
most of the clerical end workers anyway. We have the "advantage" in
our industry that technical proficiency as a rule is VERY VERY *LOW*.
We still have competitors with just peer-to-peer Win9x networks and
e-mail accounts through AOL. Most have an AIX box somewhere to run the
industry standard COBOL application (which is pretty ubiquitous), but
if a user gets screwed up or a printer won't come up --- THEY REBOOT THE
MACHINE! No joke, they simply have NO IDEA what kind of system their
working with. When a bunch of material handling people get together
they will invariably complain about how unstable their IBM systems are.
The first one of these I went to (for IT people in the material handling
business), they asked for topics, etc... So I did a short (like 10
minutes) bit on Samba figuring most of these people had Win9x boxes,
etc... We are talking jaws-on-the-floor, wide-eye,
deer-in-the-headlights, blushing-virgin STUNNED! "You can do that!" It
was *sad*.