[KLUG Advocacy] Use Linux where it fits formerly ... Lindows/"I Hate Linux" rant....

Greg Mason advocacy@kalamazoolinux.org
Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:47:05 -0400


what about Final Cut Pro 4?

and, correction, Avid DOES run on macs. I can even cite an ad in the 
latest MacWorld as proof.

-Greg

On Tuesday, October 14, 2003, at 10:35  PM, Jeremy Leonard wrote:

> The only thing I have to say is Avid is the BEST video editing suite in
> existence. It runs on Windows2000. They dropped MAC 2 years ago and
> every big movie in the theaters last year was cut on an Avid. Animation
> and special effects may have been on SGI or Linux but it was edited on
> Avid. Check the credits on the next movie you see.
>
>
> On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 18:42, Rusty Yonkers wrote:
>> I think that this guys rant is not as much against Linux but against
>> militant users that he has run across.  These are the militant users
>> that say Linux is the best solution for everything.  I think that is
>> an invalid position.
>>
>> For example, if you are like into all the latest computer games and
>> that is your focus then you should run Windows.  There are more games
>> out for Windows than any other platform.  This will be true for at
>> least the forseeable future.
>>
>> Unless you are Industrial light and magic with your own programming
>> staff, and you want to do video editing and production, then the Mac
>> is the best platform.  Linux has cinelerra and as far as I know that
>> is the extent of it.  There are no special effects programs and post
>> production programs other than cinelerra that I am aware of.  Well
>> there is MainActor but it is stuck at version 3 on Linux and it does
>> not look like version 5 is in the works for the Linux platform.
>> Windows even has a larger selection than Linux what with EVE, and
>> MainActor version 5 and VideoMan, and Windows Movie Maker (version 2
>> is actually not quite so bad - feature rich but not totally stable),
>> and alamDV, and Adobe premier and after affects, etc. etc. etc.
>>
>> And on the Mac we start with iMovie which is AWESOME!!!! and final
>> cut and the list grows huge.  Oh and authoring a DVD... WOW  ... I
>> know that you can burn DVD on Linux but what about rich multimedia
>> content menus and such .... put together easily..... iDVD ROCKS!!!!!
>> That is why the Mac is even hands down better than Windows.... and
>> getting a Windows system with the power and software etc to do what
>> the Mac can will actually cost more than the Mac (yes it is really
>> true!!!!).
>>
>> In the server realm Linux ROCKS like no other.  I don't think that
>> there is any better platform than Linux on the server side of things.
>>  Linux also makes a rock solid and awesome client for most business
>> environments, escpecially with LTSP!  Unless you have a vertical
>> market app that only runs on Windows and won't work in WINE (hmmm
>> never have liked WINE - to kludgy) then you may have to run Windows,
>> or at least Windows terminal server (of course you need to buy
>> Windows licenses for all those workstations even if you are using
>> rdesktop).
>>
>> For the casual home user.... hmmmmmm interesting question.... I have
>> seen plenty of people end up in totally awful situations in Windows
>> in homes.  Of course connecting Windows to a cable or DSL line
>> without a firewall (which most people do) is totally unforgivable!!!!
>>  For most people though the support when they have Linux questions is
>> not often there.  There are those on the Linux news groups that are
>> so rude that they drive away all newcomers.  Many people do not even
>> know what a news group is.  There will be NO help at your local Best
>> Buy or Circuit City!!!!!!  Of course assistance for Mac is not much
>> better in stores....but the Mac is so easy for the end user that is
>> not as much of an issue (am I showing some of my colors with that
>> statement???).
>>
>> The plethora of software to do all that cutezy stuff easily like
>> making cards and such is only available for Windows (and often Mac)
>> but not Linux.  Educational titles for bobby and suzy are not
>> released for Linux (aka Reader Rabbit).  I remember when Apple II was
>> king.  I was trying to sell Intel computers at Radio Shack.  You
>> could not sell Mom and Dad anything other than an Apple!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> In the home market software, the stuff on the store shelves, sells
>> computers, period!!!!  I also go back to an earlier post I made about
>> ease of installation of software.  It is still too hard for the
>> uninitiated.  It needs to be as easy as insert cd and click on
>> install or download file and double click on it to do the install.
>> Yes I know that Windows and Mac sometimes have dependancies and such
>> .... but the installs often take care of that better.  And yes I
>> totally agree that the whole Windows DLL thing and library thing etc
>> is about as screwed up as it can get.  Mom and Dad do not care about,
>> or even know those things though.....  This is where Lindows is going
>> with click and run.  If the Linux community would chose one standard
>> (ie Red Carpet), get behind it, standardize on it, and make it as GUI
>> and easy as pie they would take about a thousand steps in the right
>> direction towards desktop acceptance in the home.
>>
>> You don't fight a sub battle with a tank or a tank battle with a sub.
>>  I think if we can find the right solution for the problem instead of
>> using a hammer for everything the battle will go much farther!
>>
>> =====
>> Rusty Yonkers
>> CNE, MCP, A+, CCNA, Linux+, Server+, Network+ certified
>> -----------------------------------------
>> Ubergeek -- An Atomic Supergeek with an attitude!
>> -----------------------------------------
>> Currently using SuSE 8.2, Mac OS X, and WinXP (would love to get rid 
>> of last one)
>>
>> ...............looking for penguin domination.....................
>>
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