[KLUG Advocacy] Use Linux where it fits formerly ... Lindows/"I Hate Linux" rant....

[Jeremy Leonard]

I didn't say it didn't run on MACs.What I meant was they stopped
developing for MACs 2 years ago. No new version wil be supported on MAC.

I still think AVID is better that FCP. When you buy an avid the best way
is to buy the whole system from them. It's a complete solution. Hardware
and software. The latest version of AVID supports 8 streams of video at
1:1! That's incredible! Plus with their hardware realtime rendering you
don't have to spend hours just letting you computer render! Nothing
beats it.

On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 22:47, Greg Mason wrote:
> what about Final Cut Pro 4?
> 
> and, correction, Avid DOES run on macs. I can even cite an ad in the 
> latest MacWorld as proof.
> 
> -Greg
> 
> On Tuesday, October 14, 2003, at 10:35  PM, Jeremy Leonard wrote:
> 
> > The only thing I have to say is Avid is the BEST video editing suite in
> > existence. It runs on Windows2000. They dropped MAC 2 years ago and
> > every big movie in the theaters last year was cut on an Avid. Animation
> > and special effects may have been on SGI or Linux but it was edited on
> > Avid. Check the credits on the next movie you see.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 18:42, Rusty Yonkers wrote:
> >> I think that this guys rant is not as much against Linux but against
> >> militant users that he has run across.  These are the militant users
> >> that say Linux is the best solution for everything.  I think that is
> >> an invalid position.
> >>
> >> For example, if you are like into all the latest computer games and
> >> that is your focus then you should run Windows.  There are more games
> >> out for Windows than any other platform.  This will be true for at
> >> least the forseeable future.
> >>
> >> Unless you are Industrial light and magic with your own programming
> >> staff, and you want to do video editing and production, then the Mac
> >> is the best platform.  Linux has cinelerra and as far as I know that
> >> is the extent of it.  There are no special effects programs and post
> >> production programs other than cinelerra that I am aware of.  Well
> >> there is MainActor but it is stuck at version 3 on Linux and it does
> >> not look like version 5 is in the works for the Linux platform.
> >> Windows even has a larger selection than Linux what with EVE, and
> >> MainActor version 5 and VideoMan, and Windows Movie Maker (version 2
> >> is actually not quite so bad - feature rich but not totally stable),
> >> and alamDV, and Adobe premier and after affects, etc. etc. etc.
> >>
> >> And on the Mac we start with iMovie which is AWESOME!!!! and final
> >> cut and the list grows huge.  Oh and authoring a DVD... WOW  ... I
> >> know that you can burn DVD on Linux but what about rich multimedia
> >> content menus and such .... put together easily..... iDVD ROCKS!!!!!
> >> That is why the Mac is even hands down better than Windows.... and
> >> getting a Windows system with the power and software etc to do what
> >> the Mac can will actually cost more than the Mac (yes it is really
> >> true!!!!).
> >>
> >> In the server realm Linux ROCKS like no other.  I don't think that
> >> there is any better platform than Linux on the server side of things.
> >>  Linux also makes a rock solid and awesome client for most business
> >> environments, escpecially with LTSP!  Unless you have a vertical
> >> market app that only runs on Windows and won't work in WINE (hmmm
> >> never have liked WINE - to kludgy) then you may have to run Windows,
> >> or at least Windows terminal server (of course you need to buy
> >> Windows licenses for all those workstations even if you are using
> >> rdesktop).
> >>
> >> For the casual home user.... hmmmmmm interesting question.... I have
> >> seen plenty of people end up in totally awful situations in Windows
> >> in homes.  Of course connecting Windows to a cable or DSL line
> >> without a firewall (which most people do) is totally unforgivable!!!!
> >>  For most people though the support when they have Linux questions is
> >> not often there.  There are those on the Linux news groups that are
> >> so rude that they drive away all newcomers.  Many people do not even
> >> know what a news group is.  There will be NO help at your local Best
> >> Buy or Circuit City!!!!!!  Of course assistance for Mac is not much
> >> better in stores....but the Mac is so easy for the end user that is
> >> not as much of an issue (am I showing some of my colors with that
> >> statement???).
> >>
> >> The plethora of software to do all that cutezy stuff easily like
> >> making cards and such is only available for Windows (and often Mac)
> >> but not Linux.  Educational titles for bobby and suzy are not
> >> released for Linux (aka Reader Rabbit).  I remember when Apple II was
> >> king.  I was trying to sell Intel computers at Radio Shack.  You
> >> could not sell Mom and Dad anything other than an Apple!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >> In the home market software, the stuff on the store shelves, sells
> >> computers, period!!!!  I also go back to an earlier post I made about
> >> ease of installation of software.  It is still too hard for the
> >> uninitiated.  It needs to be as easy as insert cd and click on
> >> install or download file and double click on it to do the install.
> >> Yes I know that Windows and Mac sometimes have dependancies and such
> >> .... but the installs often take care of that better.  And yes I
> >> totally agree that the whole Windows DLL thing and library thing etc
> >> is about as screwed up as it can get.  Mom and Dad do not care about,
> >> or even know those things though.....  This is where Lindows is going
> >> with click and run.  If the Linux community would chose one standard
> >> (ie Red Carpet), get behind it, standardize on it, and make it as GUI
> >> and easy as pie they would take about a thousand steps in the right
> >> direction towards desktop acceptance in the home.
> >>
> >> You don't fight a sub battle with a tank or a tank battle with a sub.
> >>  I think if we can find the right solution for the problem instead of
> >> using a hammer for everything the battle will go much farther!
> >>
> >> =====
> >> Rusty Yonkers
> >> CNE, MCP, A+, CCNA, Linux+, Server+, Network+ certified
> >> -----------------------------------------
> >> Ubergeek -- An Atomic Supergeek with an attitude!
> >> -----------------------------------------
> >> Currently using SuSE 8.2, Mac OS X, and WinXP (would love to get rid 
> >> of last one)
> >>
> >> ...............looking for penguin domination.....................
> >>
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