[KLUG Members] Re: For Bill - anhonestdesire URL
Doug Rehfeldt
members@kalamazoolinux.org
Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:00:45 -0400
Bill,
Have you considered using an index page for the different groupings of
thumbnails? You would link to several different pages containing those
thumbnails. This would really reduce the initial download time for
dial-up visitors when they hit your site. Even further yet, you could
create a text based index page as the primary site with a well defined
link to a graphical index page for higher bandwidth visitors. Use the
alternative text for each picture as your text link. (more work though,
but good practice to have within your web pages). Also, time the
download using dial-up, or calculate it for 56Kbps, and put that
information on the primary index page. I see this on the 'Net sometimes.
This way you let the visitor's choose their method of viewing the
content.
Personally, I frequently turn off graphics while "speed" searching the
'Net for information. The Opera browser allows me to do this with a
single click and when in Linux, lynx is my first choice. So, if there
is no alternative text, visitor's in text mode, or those using special
browsers, may not understand a web site's content.
My $00.10 worth (with inflation),
-Doug
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> 1. Re: at-home cops, evading the (Adam Tauno Williams)
> 2. Re: gnumeric problem (Ralph M. Deal)
> 3. Re: gnumeric problem (Ralph M. Deal)
> 4. Re: gnumeric problem (Bruce Smith)
> 5. Re: Major problem with Windows re-install and Partitioning. (Dennis Fitzpatrick)
> 6. Re: at-home cops, evading the (Bill)
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> Subject: Re: [KLUG Members] at-home cops, evading the
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:15:59 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Adam Tauno Williams <adam@morrison-ind.com>
> Reply-To: members@kalamazoolinux.org
>
>
>>You should weigh the consequences before you act. Is it worth the
>>risk of having your athome account canceled? Do you have other options,
>>like DSL, or would you be back to a dialup connection?
>>If you've been using broadband so long, you've forgot what dialup is
>>like, I recommend you try it for awhile to refresh your memory. It's not
>>fun! I know, that's the only option available at home.
>>Also, have you looked into the free web page services? I never used
>>them, but are services like geocities still free???
>>The other legal way to do it is to check into a "business" connection
>>with a DSL or cable provider. (or pay for hosting off site)
>>
>
> It is also not ethical to violate your EULA, which you agreed to, at least
> tacitly. If the "business" connection costs more why not defray some of your
> costs by renting out space to friends?
>
> I expect, given the current legal mood, for ISPs to acquire modestly draconian
> powers in the near future. Yanking their chain may not be a good idea.
>
> If you think dial up is bad, try cellular..... :(
>
> Systems and Network Administrator
> Morrison Industries
> 1825 Monroe Ave NW
> Grand Rapids, MI. 49505
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:54:11 -0400
> From: "Ralph M. Deal" <deal@kzoo.edu>
> To: members@kalamazoolinux.org
> Subject: Re: [KLUG Members] gnumeric problem
> Reply-To: members@kalamazoolinux.org
>
> Adam Williams wrote:
>
>
>>What version of Gnumeric is this? Up until VERY recently Gnumeric did not
>>suppoert true type fonts, which it finally achieved via integration with
>>gnome-print (the GNOME print API, of sorts). The gnumeric that shipped
>>with RH7.1 should be considered old. Ximian ships gnumeric-0.67-ximian.1
>>which is newer.
>>
>
> 0.61-7 came with BSware 7.1 #16
>
>
>>Current version is 0.70, go to
>>http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=gnumeric
>>
>
> Indeed, version is there and I downloaded it. When I tried to install
> the rpm,
> I discovered that it needed 7 packages which were too old. Now if I
> update those
> packages, I'll be in deep trouble with other packages that share those
> utilities so I've not installed 0.70.
>
>
>>A changelog for gnueric can be found at:
>>http://cvs.gnome.org/lxr/source/gnumeric/ChangeLog
>>
>>But you will need a very current machine to run anything newer than what
>>Ximian provides, so if your not running Ximian I'd try that and see if
>>the fonts work better, there.
>>
>>Gnumeric developement is currently fast-n-furious as they are pushing for
>>a 1.0 release to closely track the release of GNOME 2.0.
>>
>
>
> Neat. Now if only I can get it to run correctly on my machine...
>
> Thanks, Adam, Ralph deal@kzoo.edu
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> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:04:18 -0400
> From: "Ralph M. Deal" <deal@kzoo.edu>
> To: members@kalamazoolinux.org
> Subject: Re: [KLUG Members] gnumeric problem
> Reply-To: members@kalamazoolinux.org
>
> Bruce Smith wrote:
>
>
>>I just completed an fresh install of BSware #16 on a spare machine.
>>I selected the "Workstation" / "Gnome" default install.
>>
>>After the install, I started gnumeric from the menu without a problem.
>>I also started gnumeric from a terminal window without a problem and
>>without even a warning message.
>>
>
> This was a fresh install, not an update, right?
>
>
>>I didn't use it much, other than to look at the menus (all fine).
>>
>>I have no idea what you did differently. Let me know if you'd like
>>me to try anything else on this machine before I blow it away.
>>
>
> Many thanks, Bruce, for the test. My problem stems from my updating
> RH6.2 and
> so inherited some features that are screwing up fonts on gnumeric
> somehow.
>
> Since I don't know what test to suggest, blow away when you need to.
> My problem may be related to my not being able to print, which I've not
> really worked on. When I give the command:
> echo 'hello' | lpr
> I get:
> sending job 'deal@localhost+305 to localhost@localhost
> connecting to 'localhost', attempt 1
> cannot open connection to localhost - Connection timed out
> Make sure LPD server is running on the server.
>
> I get the same behavior after verifying that lpd is on via printtool.
> Right now ps -ax shows lpd Waiting
>
> Does RH 7.1 refer to the user as xxx@localhost or do I have some network
> working
> unintentionally?
>
> Puzzled, Ralph
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:15:49 -0400
> From: Bruce Smith <bruce@armintl.com>
> To: members@kalamazoolinux.org
> Subject: Re: [KLUG Members] gnumeric problem
> Reply-To: members@kalamazoolinux.org
>
>
>>>I just completed an fresh install of BSware #16 on a spare machine.
>>>I selected the "Workstation" / "Gnome" default install.
>>>
>>>After the install, I started gnumeric from the menu without a problem.
>>>I also started gnumeric from a terminal window without a problem and
>>>without even a warning message.
>>>
>>This was a fresh install, not an update, right?
>>
>
> Correct.
>
>
>>>I didn't use it much, other than to look at the menus (all fine).
>>>
>>>I have no idea what you did differently. Let me know if you'd like
>>>me to try anything else on this machine before I blow it away.
>>>
>>Many thanks, Bruce, for the test. My problem stems from my updating
>>RH6.2 and
>>so inherited some features that are screwing up fonts on gnumeric
>>somehow.
>>
>
> Possibly. Gnumeric also runs fine on my normal system, which
> has been upgraded to every single release since Redhat 4.2.
>
>
>>Since I don't know what test to suggest, blow away when you need to.
>>My problem may be related to my not being able to print, which I've not
>>really worked on. When I give the command:
>>echo 'hello' | lpr
>>I get:
>>sending job 'deal@localhost+305 to localhost@localhost
>>connecting to 'localhost', attempt 1
>>cannot open connection to localhost - Connection timed out
>>Make sure LPD server is running on the server.
>>
>>I get the same behavior after verifying that lpd is on via printtool.
>>Right now ps -ax shows lpd Waiting
>>
>>Does RH 7.1 refer to the user as xxx@localhost or do I have some network
>>working unintentionally?
>>
>
> It seems like RH 7.1 needs a printer port module loaded that wasn't
> required in 6.2. What's your /etc/modules.conf file look like?
> (may be named /etc/conf.modules on older systems)
>
> --------------------------------------------
> Bruce Smith bruce@armintl.com
> System Administrator / Network Administrator
> Armstrong International, Inc.
> Three Rivers, Michigan 49093 USA
> http://www.armstrong-intl.com/
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> From: "Dennis Fitzpatrick" <denjen92@earthlink.net>
> To: <members@kalamazoolinux.org>
> Subject: Re: [KLUG Members] Major problem with Windows re-install and Partitioning.
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:02:27 -0400
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> I had the same problem on an old PackardBell system. I tried to =
> reinstall the original configuration after having run Caldera. I used =
> Segate Disk Wizard to delete the non dos patrons and reformat the hard =
> drive. Then I was able to reinstall the original software. The hard =
> drive was not a Segate but the software worked anyway. Dennis.
> ----- Original Message -----=20
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:22 AM
> Subject: [KLUG Members] Major problem with Windows re-install and =
> Partitioning.
>
>
> I have a Dell computer. Ive called Dell about 4 times now and got a =
> few leads but no real help... and no real solution to my problem.
>
> Here is the background information... Im re-instaling Windows. I =
> previously had a duel boot system using System Commander 2000 booting =
> Linux Mandrake, SuSe Linux and Windows 98. I forgot to delete all =
> partitions before I formated the C Drive. I belive Ive used the command =
> (Format C:) and I a have used FDISK to delete all of the partitions =
> possible.
>
> I still have one partition left that I CANNOT remove for some reason. =
> Partition 1 is an exteneded partition containing several logical Unix =
> partitions (FDISK cannot see any of these logical partitions when trying =
> to delete them). I originally created these partitions with System =
> Commander. FDISK is an endless loop when trying to get rid of this =
> partition. When I try to delete the extended partition, it says I must =
> first delete the logical partitoins. so when I try to delete the =
> logical partitions FDISK cannot see the partitions (Im guessing because =
> it is of the UNIX file structure).
>
> So to solve the problem I tried to re-install System commander in DOS =
> to manually get rid of theses logical partitions the same way I created =
> them. However, System commander tells me tat Windows was shutdown =
> improperly and that I have to run Norton Disk Doctor in order to fix the =
> problem. If Norton disk Doctor will solve all of my problems I would =
> buy it tomorrow and be happy, but I have a fear that it will not work =
> (Is it even DOS operatable?), if it doesnt work it will be a waste of =
> money, and I will not be able to get refunded for it.
>
> I dont want to make this any longer, so this is where I will ask for =
> your advice.
> What can I do? Is there another program like FDISK that can "SEE" =
> these Unix file types so I can delete them? Or, is the only way through =
> System Commander, and do I have to buy DISK DOCTOR?
>
> My last question is... .have any of you ever seen this before? I feel =
> like I got my self into a real mess, and Im debating on just buying a =
> new harddrive. If I were to do that I could use that drive to install =
> windows and eventually repair my current hardrive with the new one =
> (would that be correct?).
>
> Thank you for your patience and for your help, Im sorry that this is =
> so long, just felt it was necessary to give all of the info that I can =
> up front.
>
> Mike Casteel
> WMU Student
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had the same problem on an old =
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> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [KLUG Members] Major =
> problem=20
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> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV>
> <DIV>I have a Dell computer. Ive called Dell about 4 times now =
> and got a=20
> few leads but no real help... and no real solution to my =
> problem.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Here is the background information... Im re-instaling=20
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> System Commander 2000 booting Linux Mandrake, SuSe Linux and =
> Windows=20
> 98. I forgot to delete all partitions before I formated the C=20
> Drive. I belive Ive used the command (Format C:) and I a have =
> used FDISK=20
> to delete all of the partitions possible.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>I still have one partition left that I CANNOT remove for some=20
> reason. Partition 1 is an exteneded partition containing several =
> logical=20
> Unix partitions (FDISK cannot see any of these logical partitions when =
> trying=20
> to delete them). I originally created these partitions with =
> System=20
> Commander. FDISK is an endless loop when trying to get rid of =
> this=20
> partition. When I try to delete the extended partition, it says =
> I must=20
> first delete the logical partitoins. so when I try to delete the =
> logical=20
> partitions FDISK cannot see the partitions (Im guessing because it is =
> of the=20
> UNIX file structure).</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>So to solve the problem I tried to re-install System commander in =
> DOS to=20
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> them. However, System commander tells me tat Windows was =
> shutdown=20
> improperly and that I have to run Norton Disk Doctor in order to fix =
> the=20
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> would buy=20
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> will=20
> not be able to get refunded for it.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>I dont want to make this any longer, so this is where I will ask =
> for your=20
> advice.</DIV>
> <DIV>What can I do? Is there another program like FDISK that can =
> "SEE"=20
> these Unix file types so I can delete them? Or, is the only way =
> through=20
> System Commander, and do I have to buy DISK DOCTOR?</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>My last question is... .have any of you ever seen this =
> before? I=20
> feel like I got my self into a real mess, and Im debating on just =
> buying a new=20
> harddrive. If I were to do that I could use that drive to =
> install=20
> windows and eventually repair my current hardrive with the new one =
> (would that=20
> be correct?).</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Thank you for your patience and for your help, Im sorry that this =
> is so=20
> long, just felt it was necessary to give all of the info that I can up =
>
> front.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Mike Casteel</DIV>
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> Message: 6
> From: Bill <selinux@home.com>
> To: members@kalamazoolinux.org
> Subject: Re: [KLUG Members] at-home cops, evading the
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 21:24:42 -0400
> Reply-To: members@kalamazoolinux.org
>
> Just to close off this thread, here is what I have done:
>
> I set up a "temporary" index page on the rented space (the 700 megs I
> mentioned in the initial email) and posted the pix
>
> http://anhonestdesire.com/
>
> It's hideous ... be prepared.
>
> I am ill with the bubonic flu and not disposed to putting in more time
> making it pretty. I should probably knock the font down smaller but that
> can wait a day or two. (I usually put up web pages for visually
> handicapped friends and just automatically opened the font to +6)
>
> The whole idea was to make the pictures widely available to family and
> close friends who might have internet access. In my email giving them the
> URL, I warned that the initial page contained nearly 200 images and that,
> even in thumbnail form, they would take a while to download on a 56k
> hookup. The thumbs are linked to hi-rez pix, suitable for printing.
>
> In a couple of months, I will pull that site down and will, hopefully,
> have enough of the commercial site ready for posting to give my
> (potential) customers something to look at.
>
> When I pull it down from there, I will re-work it and bridge it across the
> full amount of disk space @home provides for a few more months. Hopefully,
> soon after, the commercial site will generate enough $ to allow me to get
> the @work T1-T3 line to my home.
>
> Probably I am the exception, but I think the market for home based web
> sites is even bigger than the market for fast surfing. I have a
> honking-fast wire into the house ... probably because it's the only one in
> my intellectually repressed neighborhood. And that wire is just screeming
> for heavier use!
>
> Thanks to all those who made suggestions about this matter. They have been
> filed away against some future rainy day when I just get too antsy to wait
> any longer!
>
> :-)
>
> Bill
>