[KLUG Members] Nautilus in RH 7.3 and Samba
shares...revisited...
Tahnesha Pinckney
members@kalamazoolinux.org
Thu, 05 Dec 2002 14:28:38 -0500
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>>> awilliam@whitemice.org 12/05/02 01:50PM >>>
>I just have what might be an easy question (actually I have 1 1/2
>questions...)
>I was finally able to establish samba shares throughout my
>Windows/Linux network. However, when I sign in as root on the RH 7.3
Cool!
>machine, (I'm using the Gnome desktop as root user, BTW), I use
Nautilus
>to browse my samba shares. I can access all folders with no problem,
>but when I go to open a Word document or an .mp3 file, I get a
message
>saying that the application, be it mpg123 or AbiWord "cannot open the
>file in samba shares". At first I thought this was something I did
>again, but, decided to use Konqueror on the KDE menu, and I can open
any
>files within my samba shares with no problems. Is it just something
in
>Nautilus? A config setting of some sort?
It is GNOME-lag. Nautilus and a few apps fully support VFS, many,
especially non-GNOME apps like Abiword and mpg123 don't know anything
about VFS. So they look at the UNC and go "Huh?" KDE's SMB VFS
modules
(built on kparts?) may just be more advanced. But I'll wager it is
secretly copying the file to a local temp space and openning it from
there.
>>It's interesting that you say that, because when I launch apps that I
access from Samba, it creates a temp file in the /tmp/kdedesktop/
folder...I guess it'll just be an extra step for me if I decide to use
Nautilus.
I believe full VFS support is a target for GNOME 2.2, but that may be
just
rumor and inuendo. Gstreamer is also a target for full-integration
which
will enable streaming multimedia everywhere, which is going to be so
cool!
>My second half question was really already answered by someone else
on
>this board. Everytime I access a windows share from Konqueror, I
have
>to re-type my username and password. As I understand it, if I enable
>encrypted passwords (since NT 4.0 requires it and that's what I'm
>running on my windows machines), it should solve the problem.
However,
>feel free to correct me if I'm wrong..I'm just a lowly beginner!
Again, this is a VFS thing. Nautilus will do the same thing. The SMB
VFS
module just isn't quite there yet. The don't-prompt-me-no-more effect
of
encrypted password is when your using an NT/WinY2k/Xpee desktop (they
don't much care for clear text passwords). A GNOME wide XML based PSM
is
in the works, *hopefully* more secure than the one in Windows.
>>Now I see...encrypted passwords are only useful when you're trying to
access a share from a Windows machine that's running NT/W2K/Xpee, and
not the other way around AND KDE will request me to re-enter my
password, by default, when accessing shares located on the Windows
machines (unless of course, there's a way to cache passwords in
KDE)...hmm...my confusion is beginning to lessen...
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<DIV><BR><BR>>>> awilliam@whitemice.org 12/05/02 01:50PM
>>><BR>>I just have what might be an easy question (actually I have
1 1/2<BR>>questions...)<BR>>I was finally able to establish samba shares
throughout my<BR>>Windows/Linux network. However, when I sign in as
root on the RH 7.3<BR><BR>Cool!<BR><BR>>machine, (I'm using the Gnome desktop
as root user, BTW), I use Nautilus<BR>>to browse my samba shares. I can
access all folders with no problem,<BR>>but when I go to open a Word document
or an .mp3 file, I get a message<BR>>saying that the application, be it
mpg123 or AbiWord "cannot open the<BR>>file in samba shares". At first
I thought this was something I did<BR>>again, but, decided to use Konqueror
on the KDE menu, and I can open any<BR>>files within my samba shares with no
problems. Is it just something in<BR>>Nautilus? A config setting
of some sort?<BR><BR>It is GNOME-lag. Nautilus and a few apps fully
support VFS, many, <BR>especially non-GNOME apps like Abiword and mpg123 don't
know anything <BR>about VFS. So they look at the UNC and go "Huh?"
KDE's SMB VFS modules <BR>(built on kparts?) may just be more advanced.
But I'll wager it is <BR>secretly copying the file to a local temp space and
openning it from <BR>there.</DIV>
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<DIV>>>It's interesting that you say that, because when I launch apps that
I access from Samba, it creates a temp file in the /tmp/kdedesktop/ folder...I
guess it'll just be an extra step for me if I decide to use Nautilus.<BR><BR>I
believe full VFS support is a target for GNOME 2.2, but that may be just
<BR>rumor and inuendo. Gstreamer is also a target for full-integration
which <BR>will enable streaming multimedia everywhere, which is going to be so
cool!<BR><BR>>My second half question was really already answered by someone
else on<BR>>this board. Everytime I access a windows share from
Konqueror, I have<BR>>to re-type my username and password. As I
understand it, if I enable<BR>>encrypted passwords (since NT 4.0 requires it
and that's what I'm<BR>>running on my windows machines), it should solve the
problem. However,<BR>>feel free to correct me if I'm wrong..I'm just a
lowly beginner!<BR><BR>Again, this is a VFS thing. Nautilus will do the
same thing. The SMB VFS <BR>module just isn't quite there yet. The
don't-prompt-me-no-more effect of <BR>encrypted password is when your using an
NT/WinY2k/Xpee desktop (they <BR>don't much care for clear text
passwords). A GNOME wide XML based PSM is <BR>in the works,
*hopefully* more secure than the one in Windows.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>>>Now I see...encrypted passwords are only useful when you're trying
to access a share from a Windows machine that's running NT/W2K/Xpee, and not the
other way around AND KDE will request me to re-enter my password, by default,
when accessing shares located on the Windows machines (unless of course, there's
a way to cache passwords in KDE)...hmm...my confusion is beginning to
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