[KLUG Members] KLUG Meeting Notes - 04/30/2002
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KALAMAZOO LINUX USER'S GROUP
MEMBERS AND GUESTS - COME JOIN US FOR A MEETING!!!
http://kalamazoolinux.org/meetings
WE MEET WEEKLY, EACH TUESDAY AT 7:00PM.
Our meeting site is the Kalamazoo Chamber
of Commerce office building downtown.
346 W. Michigan Ave. - Kalamazoo, MI
http://kazoolug.org/meetings/maps.php3 <=== MAP!
Tuesday April 30, 2002 7:00PM
KLUG Meeting Notes - Summary
I. PRESENTATION RECAP
II. NEXT WEEK'S MEETING INFO <=== Beginner's Meeting!!!
III. PROJECT REPORTS
IV. GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS
Tonight's Meeting Moderator:
Chairperson: Dirk Bartley
I. PRESENTATION RECAP
THIS WEEK'S KLUG PRESENTATION: (31 active KLUG participants)
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Fight SPAM Now!
by Robert G. Brown
We all get it, and we don't like it! How can we get
rid of it? Learn a few tools and techniques that can
turn us all into world-class spam fighters. Let's all
work together to drive spam and spammers off the net.
Also, we took a look at what a sustained effort,
and a little persistance can do.
See the .pdf at http://kalamazoolinux.org/presentations
PRESENTATION SUMMARY:
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Bob gave us the definition of SPAM as Unsolicited Commercial
E-mail (UCE) and told us why we should regard SPAM as a BAD
THING or the unauthorized use of our resources. Using a
Red Hat Linux OS driven laptop (operated by Bruce Smith)
and the KLUG SVGA projector, we reviewed what doesn't work
and what does work to combat SPAMMERS and their SPAM.
I. What Doesn't Work in SPAM Fighting
A. Outlaw SPAM - why it won't work
B. Filter SPAM - why this is NOT a solution
II. How to Effectively Fight SPAM
A. Persistence Pays Off in Fighting SPAM
1. Report of SPAM frequency by month & year
a. Positive results w/ visible decline of SPAM
B. Your Allies are the Postmasters
1. e-mail server administrators (Postmasters)
a. Avoidance of 'black listing' for SPAM
C. Postmaster's Allies
1. SpamCop spamcop.net Black Hole Lists
2. ORDB www.ordb.com Open Relay Testing (remailers)
D. SPAM Fighting Tools - Forget 'PLEASE REMOVE' & report them!
1. Adcomplain - examine headers and YOU generate complaints
a. Determine origin of e-mail - looking at FULL header info
1. What the header info means and identity forgery
b. Send complaints to SpamCop for black listing
1. Send complaints to offending ISP too
2. Abuse@ vs. postmaster@ for reporting.
c. http://www.rdrop.com/users/billmc/adcomplain.html
1. Next version should be much improved / more effective
2. SpamCop - you send SPAM to them and they hammer them for you
a. Register and get an account where you forward SPAM
3. See also http://www.abuse.net/tools.html [ 14 tools ]
4. See also http://www.mail-abuse.com
III. Questions and Answers
Bob took questions during the presentation and held an active
Q & A session after his main presentation. Questions were asked
about the ethics, philosophy, and legalities of SPAM! This was
a well organized and practical solution path for a common problem.
The large crowd was eager for knowledge and they got what they
came for! We are now empowered to strike back at SPAMMERS!
- = HAVE SOME FUN AND DROP THE HAMMER ON AN UNETHICAL SPAMMER = -
Robert Brown is a founding member, past chairman, the
current publicity director of KLUG, and has over 25
years experience in software development in numerous
environments, disciplines, and industries. An
intermittant user of UNIX systems for over 15 years,
Bob has developed applications with Linux in the
course of his professional and volunteer activities.
He can also be seen cycling the Kal-Haven trail,
wandering around, perpetrating nature photography or
traveling to some fairly unusual places. Recently,
he was elected to chair a major SIG of the ACM.
Comments to: "Robert G. Brown" <bob@acm.org>
NOTE -
* Must come to three meetings to qualify as a full member.
II. NEXT KLUG MEETING - TUESDAY 05/07/2002
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Linux for Beginners
by Dirk Bartley
THE BEGINNER'S MEETINGS ARE HELD the first Tuesday of each
month. Linux basics and distribution installs are the
lessons of these evenings. If you do want KLUG's FREE help
installing Linux on your computer at one of these meetings,
http://kalamazoolinux.org/meetings/installform.html
Contact the KLUG Installmasters for more information:
installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org
- and -
IMPORTANT TO SEE URL: http://kalamazoolinux.org/bsware
Now is the time to get started! Linux is becoming a mainstay
of free software, free choice, dependability and power.
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THE STANDARD KLUG BEGINNER'S PRESENTATION - LINUX BOOT CAMP!!!
http://kalamazoolinux.org/presentations/beginner01.html
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Note:
As Linux matures as an OS, the educational needs are evolving.
The Beginner's Meeting format is changing with those needs.
It is difficult to cover all the basics in one meeting. Linux
is not just for CS experts and IT professionals. The "BASICS"
meetings are intended for those with limited experience with
Operating System's or even Personal Computer's. Your comments
and questions are welcomed!
Dirk Bartley, a WMU graduate, works as a systems
administrator for Schupan Aluminum Sales, a division
of Schupan and Sons. His passion for free software
comes second to spending time with his wife Dawn, an
Upper Peninsula native, and taking Shelly, their
sheltie/terrier mix pound pooch, for a walk. These
interests are only followed by his love of playing
ice hockey.
NOTE -
* Must come to three meetings to qualify as a full member.
III. LINUX OR KLUG RELATED PROJECT REPORTS -
N E W S F L A S H E S ! ! !
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READ EXTREME LINUX NEWS FEED - IT ALMOST HAPPENS HERE
http://slashdot.org/search.pl?threshold=1&min=0&op=stories
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G L I M A - A NEW INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY GROUP IS NOW
forming in SW Michigan. The Great Lakes IT Managers
Association [GLIMA] will announce a meeting location
and dates at the 5:01 Technology gathering on Wednesday.
Contact "Robert G. Brown" <bob@acm.org> for more info.
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5:01 TECHNOLOGY GATHERING AT DISTRICT 211 ON 5/01!
[see http://www.technology501.com for details]
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RUMORS HAVE BEEN HEARD THAT RED HAT WILL RELEASE
version 7.3.x very soon. The directory can be seen...
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JULY 4TH GATHERING AT BRUCE SMITH'S PLACE IS PLANNED
Be watching for MORE info on the KLUG web site.
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DRIFTWOOD PROJECT FORMS AND LAUNCHES MAILING LIST
A teleconferencing and Linux PC PBX project that
is open to anyone interested and exists to focus on
the open source program Asterisk. Join the list and
see what is planned for this hands-on local project.
We might be broadcasting KLUG meetings on the net
and more. http://www.asterisk.org/
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SURPLUS EQUIPMENT DONATIONS ARE NOW BEING ACCEPTED
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KLUG WILL HAVE A BOOTH AT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
Business Expo to be held at the Radisson Hotel in
Kalamazoo - Thursday May 23, 2002 from 10am to 6pm.
See the Open Source & Proprietary Source seminars.
Contact "Robert G. Brown" <bob@acm.org> to help out
or for more info. or http://www.kazoochamber.com
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NOW YOU CAN USE THE URL HTTP://KAZOOLUG.ORG TO
summon KLUG web pages. Shorter and more exact!
You can still use the longer URL as a valid address!
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A KLUG PC RUNNING LINUX HAS BEEN PLACED AT THE
Kalamazoo Chamber of Commerce to provide DHCP
services. This will enable easier internet access
for KLUG members attending meetings at the Chamber.
Lots more additions planned between KLUG and K C
of C. A newsgroup server, web server, networking,
and eventually EVERYTHING! The synergy is peaking!
Hardware is being installed and KLUG volunteers are
needed. Contact "Robert G. Brown" <bob@acm.org>
or "Dirk Bartley" <bartleyd2@net-link.net>.
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LIBRARY DATABASE HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND POSTED
Dirk Bartley has prepared a database to assist you
in locating and requesting KLUG library resources
http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/library/
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KLUG "PC SHOW" PUBLIC OUTREACH PROJECT NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!
The big yellow KLUG banner will again be proudly displayed
May 11, 2002 at the ALSCS COMPUTER SHOW in KALAMAZOO, MI!
This show is again held at the Kalamazoo County Fairgrounds.
Again, lots of Linux CD-ROM's will be made available to the public
and many contacts will be made. To get more info, please
Contact KLUG Chairperson "Dirk Bartley" <bartleyd2@net-link.net>
or Vice Chairperson "Stu Gillis" <showperson@kalamazoolinux.org>
TAX DEDUCTIBLE STATUS - STILL WAITING FOR THE IRS!!!
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The 501c3 application was sent to the IRS in December 1999.
We had an appeal hearing with our lawyer and an IRS agent.
We are told to expect a decision before October 2001!!!
{Note: It is M A Y !!! What is the IRS's reason NOW?}
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The IRS has a better idea of what the organization is about.
We hope to hear from them REAL SOON with notice of our
charitable deductibility. Charitable and tax-exemption
status is routinely granted to educational not-for-profit
organizations. This should help us attain our financial
goals. We need working capital for increased Linux promotional
activities.
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KLUG IS NOW THE PROUD OWNER OF A PRESENTATION PROJECTOR!!!
SPECIFICATIONS OF INFOCUS LP425ZVB PROJECTOR - Cost $1,599.00
7.4 pounds, 9x12x3.9, 900 lumens, Manual zoom lens
SVGA (800x600) with compressed XGA (1024x768)
HDTV support, 400:1 Contrast, Throw 5 to 20ft
16.7 million colors, 2.4 to 12.6ft image size
16 degree key stoning, 1 Watt audio
MICHIGAN POLIO NETWORK WEB SITE - INFORMATION PUBLISHED
http://www.mipolio.org/ <=== Check This Out!
This project has a coordinator to wrap it up, Brenda M. Williams.
MPN has asked KLUG to assist them in getting their info
published for public use and access. The web content includes
information on post-polio disorders. For more info contact
"Brenda M. Williams" <bwilliams@cvalaw.com>
IF YOU KNOW OF ADDITIONAL LINKS that should be included
in the KLUG LINKS page... please send e-mail suggestions
to <linkmaster@kalamazoolinux.org> so the LINKS team of
Ted & Thad Juszczak can review the content of the site.
If you haven't checked these links out lately, take a look.
http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/links
GREAT MEETING PRESENTATIONS. Your opportunity
to share your Linux experiences and see what
other people are doing. Come enjoy a meeting!
If you have an IDEA FOR A KLUG PRESENTATION or know
of a good speaker, we want to hear about it! Make
contact with our KLUG Program Director, Adam Williams
<awilliam@whitemice.org>. A Pentium Class Desktop
PC, VGA Projector, VGA Monitors, and Overhead Projector
are is Available for Use in KLUG Presentations! Contact
Dirk Bartley <bartleyd2@net-link.net>
BOOGIES CYBER CAFE - KLUG's public commercial Linux project.
Stop in and see this "pay-to-compute" implementation.
Check out - http://www.boogies.com/ Site by Matt Crampton!
This successful public demonstration of the flexibility and
suitability of Linux in a commercial environment provides
great exposure. This project provides a share of the profits
to fund KLUG activities. Members check on this LAN, remotely,
several times a day. The network support for Boogies is being
supplemented by volunteers. Robert G. Brown is supervising
the overall operation, remotely at times. The Linux OS STILL
remains cool, calm, and constant! Running Squid, NFS, sendmail,
and the Apache web server local now to host the Boogie's web site!
The web server is up. A game testing machine has been
configured. Various upgrades and enhancements are being applied
currently, including a replacement (233 MHz Pentium Pro) CPU
installed on the main server. Contact "Robert G. Brown"
<bob@acm.org> to help out or for more info. Get on the Boogies
Volunteer mailing list and start learning and contributing today!
NOTE -
* Must come to three meetings to qualify as a full member.
IV. GENERAL KLUG ANNOUNCEMENTS
WHAT IS KLUG? -
KLUG is a volunteer group formed by and for LINUX
system users in the Kalamazoo Michigan area. We
support, promote, and develop activities related
to the use, study, and application of LINUX in the
local community.
THE BEGINNER'S MEETINGS ARE HELD the first Tuesday of each
month. Linux basics and distribution installs are the
lessons of these evenings. If you do want KLUG's FREE help
installing Linux on your computer at one of these meetings,
see URL: http://kalamazoolinux.org/meetings/installform.html
Contact the KLUG Installmasters for more information:
installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org
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THE KLUG STANDARD BEGINNER'S PRESENTATION - LINUX BOOT CAMP!!!
http://kalamazoolinux.org/presentations/beginner01.html
===============================================================
Note:
As Linux matures as an OS, the educational needs are evolving.
The Beginner's Meeting format is changing with those needs.
It is difficult to cover all the basics in one meeting. Linux
is not just for CS experts and IT professionals. The "BASICS"
meetings are intended for those with limited experience with
Operating System's or even Personal Computer's. Your comments
and questions are welcomed!
IF YOU KNOW OF ADDITIONAL LINKS that should be included
in the KLUG LINKS page... please send e-mail suggestions
to <linkmaster@kalamazoolinux.org> so the LINKS team
can review the content of the site.
http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/links
REDHAT LINUX CERTIFICATION information is available
from a KLUG officer. See the club listserv for more
info or check certifications on the Links page.
http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/links/certification.html
WEST MICHIGAN SEARCH & RESCUE - Web site is done.
Go there and see this KLUG public service project!
The site is ready for the next phase of development.
Contact Brenda Williams with questions or comments.
<bwilliams@cvalaw.com> Web site http://www.wmsar.org
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ > N E W S F L A S H < +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
Y O U ARE ASKED TO REMEMBER THAT K L U G IS...
A ---> VOLUNTEER <--- ORGANIZATION!!!
Please Honor the Spirit of the GPL! Is it REALLY Free?
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
VOLUNTEER CLUB POSITIONS NOW AVAILABLE:
All KLUG positions ARE NOT occupied currently. Some KLUG
volunteers are doing double duty. Please consider
serving the members as one of the following...
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SEE THIS LISTING FOR KLUG OFFICE DESCRIPTIONS
http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/organize/
- NUTRI MASTER Provide cookies and milk for KLUG meetings. *
* {Reimbursement for refreshment purchases!}
- INSTALL MASTER Local installer who can be at newbie meetings.
- BOOGIES PROJECT MANAGERS Help maintain public Linux showcase.
- OTHER POSITIONS ARE AVAILABLE, SOME FILL TWO VOLUNTEER SLOTS!
More info from "Dirk Bartley" <bartleyd2@net-link.net>
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# J O I N & S U P P O R T K L U G !!!
# Be a KLUG Supporting Member! $25 annually *
# ($.50 per meeting) TRULY A GREAT BARGAIN!!!
#
# THE SUPPORTING MEMBERSHIP BENEFITS INCLUDE (= #)
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# GREAT MEETING PRESENTATIONS. Your opportunity
to share your Linux experiences and see what
other people are doing. Come enjoy a meeting!
If you have an IDEA FOR A KLUG PRESENTATION or know
of a good speaker, we want to hear about it! Make
contact with our KLUG Program Director, Adam Williams
<awilliam@whitemice.org>. A Pentium Class Desktop
PC, DSL Web Connection, VGA Projector, and an
Overhead Projector are Available for Use in KLUG
Presentations! Contact Dirk Bartley <bartleyd2@net-link.net>
# NEW GOLD EDITION CD GIFT FOR KLUG PRESENTATIONS!
In addition to the sincere appreciation felt for
those great KLUG presentations, presenters will
be given a gift of a new GOLD EDITION CD-ROM!
# NON-COMMERCIAL OR PERSONAL WEB SITE HOSTED on the
KLUG server. Single page .html files can be sent to the
interim KLUG webmaster@kalamazoolinux.org for
posting. These are intended to be low traffic web
sites displaying appropriate content.
# CHECK OUT THE NEW KLUG LIBRARY PAGE - See the updated
inventory listing of our KLUG Library. The items listed in
green are only available to KLUG supporting members.
We have Debian, SuSE, Mandrake, and WinLinux distribution
packages available in our library along with several others.
Did you know we have *non-Linux* distribution additions!
Everything else is available to anyone that can come to a
KLUG meeting. If you would like to check out one of these
items, please check it off and submit the form on the KLUG
library page. We are sharing these next two items as an F-Y-I !
Please do show up at the meeting if you have books requested.
What about you? Do you need to return any KLUG library books?
Contact Dirk Bartley for more info <bartleyd2@net-link.net>.
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RED HAT v7.2.x HAS BEEN RELEASED
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************** BSWARE SOFTWARE DISCOUNTS ****************
This Linux distribution now comes on two (2) CD's.
Supporting Member Discount on BSware is $1.50 per
CD or 50% off! Bruce distributes a non-commercial
version of the Red Hat Linux OS! Notice - BSware
prices are $3 per CD. A Great Deal!!! Thanks Bruce!!!
o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o
VISIT http://kalamazoolinux.org/bsware/
o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o
See Bruce's BSware web site to find out what Linux & other
distributions and application software he has available.
E-mail him in advance about your needs and pick up your
CD's at the next meeting. bruce@armintl.com
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# A PHP SIG HAS BEEN FORMED - FOR ALL those interested
in learning this powerful server-side scripting language.
See the listserv info on the KLUG web site. Newbies and
experienced PHP developers alike will have ample opportunity
to share and encourage one another in the use of PHP. More
info from "Tony Gettig" <tony@gettig-group.com>
http://kalamazoolinux.org/listserv/ SIGN UP NOW!!!
# MAKE SURE YOU ARE SIGNED UP for the KLUG mailing list!
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THIS IS THE WAY TO GET THESE WEEKLY KLUG MEETING NOTES! <--*HEY!*
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Diversified mailing lists can be found on our web site.
http://kalamazoolinux.org/listserv/
Currently Available KLUG Lists:
- Members <=== All Members Should Join!!!
- Driftwood
- OS Advocacy
- Novice
- PHP
- more
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TAX DEDUCTIBLE STATUS - STILL WAITING FOR THE IRS!!!
The 501c3 application was sent to the IRS in December 1999.
We have received notice that they are proceeding with the
processing of our request. We hope to hear from them
REAL SOON with notice of our charitable deductibility.
Charitable and tax-exemption status is routinely granted
to educational not-for-profit organizations. This should
help us attain our financial goals. We need working
capital for increased Linux promotional activities.
WOW!!! STILL NO WORD FROM THE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE!
STILL NO 501(c)(3) ISSUED TO KLUG!!!
The Kalamazoo Linux Users Group would like to
thank the Law firm of Kreis Enderle Callander &
Hudgins for their generousity toward KLUG. Matt
DePerno has made contributions of his time to
assist us in our attempts to achieve 501(c)(3) tax
status with the IRS!!!
NOTE -
* Must come to three meetings to qualify as a full member.
Bring a friend... who was disappointed by a proprietary OS!
THANKS to ARMSTRONG INTERNATIONAL, INC. for providing their
much appreciated IT Resources to support KLUG and Linux.
THANKS to KALAMAZOO CHAMBER OF COMMERCE for providing their
well appointed facilities for our meetings. Jas Networks
has donated a 2.3 Mbit connection that we used during the
meetings to allow attendees to connect by wire and also
wireless 802.11b network connections through the Michigan
Wireless Network. Many projectors, flip chart easel and
projection screens have been made available.
>><< send corrections, additions, flames to the KLUG scribe >><<
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