[KLUG Members] RedHat 7.3 Available - on CD from KLUG!

Adam Williams members@kalamazoolinux.org
06 May 2002 21:40:56 -0400


>>Is it?  My Debian Stable machine, with GUI and a few small frills,
>>weighs in at about 393 MB.  My Debian Unstable machine with tons of
>>extra stuff (database with data, boatloads of perl modules, kernel
>>source code, other development stuff, Enlightenment window manager)
>>takes up 1.7 GB.
>Hey, Debian has got RPM-based distros licked in that department.  The
>LSB will _never_ give them what apt-deb has.  I'll admit that, even
>though I trust RedHat releases over Debian ones.
>Now Connectiva has an apt-rpm, but then you run into issues with
>distribution RPM differences.  Even if LSB helps eliminate these, I'm
>sure there will still be issues in how dependencies work.  E.g., Debs
>depend any "SMTP server" for a MTA, but RPMs usually have a specific MTA
>"hardwired" in its dependencies (e.g., Sendmail).  I hope a future RPM
>v5 starts addressing this.
>Regardless, if RedHat was _serious_ about addressing this, in addition
>to creating an "apt-rpm" for its own, official packages (which it
>basically has via the RedHat Network now), they would help create an

Yes, there is up2date.

>independent archive for downloading adding 3rd party packages too.  In

Isn't that basically what the channels on red-carpet are?

>fact, if RedHat did this, they could finally take a "we are the RPM
>standard" leadership role in establishing apt in the RPM-based world via
>this 3rd party archive.

I think RH should focus on making a quality stable distro (which IMHO
they've accomplished) and leave the other stuff to someone else.  RH
aims to compete with corporate UNIX (not desktop PCs) and use the distro
as a basis for selling support and consultancy services, in which case
supporting a myriad MDAs, etc..., just doesn't make sense.

Ximian is fighting for the desktop, and they will use just about any
distro you want.