[KLUG Members] Re: IMAP -- Evolution, Mozilla, stunnel, etc...

Adam Williams members@kalamazoolinux.org
16 Oct 2002 08:00:32 -0400


>>Evolution - balky to configure for a bit, but good.
>My favorite.  100% standards-based mail client, from age-old
>SMTP/POP3/IMAP4 to the _only_ free (both beer and/or speech) client that
>does _full_ vCard (and better than anyone else IMHO) _and_ vCalendar.

Agree, Evolution is excellent.  The calendar needs a little better
integration, and at least webdav support,  but these are coming so I
won't complain to loud.  And one only misses these features because of
how much more advanced than any other open source MUA evolution is.

I'd disagree with the balky however.  Wait till I actually get around to
finishing my GNOME presentation and see how evo can be busted apart and
how trivial it is to use evo's components in other applications.  So
much cool technology, so little time.

>>SquirrelMail - My mail, webmail. Surprisingly well-featured.

Played with it,  not as feature full as IMP (what is?) but very solid. 
And the only web mail app with integrated support for sieve.

>>Mutt - Old Ironsides. IMAP4r1 support is darn good!
>Never used, although Mutt is the king of CLI.

Never used mutt, but I own one.  She ripped a pit pull's head open, so
what can I say.... no one will pick a fight with that.

>>Mozilla - 1.1 wouldn't open some folders, now 1.2a is fine.
>1.1 and 1.2a also have add-ons that add Calendaring ("beta" 0.8 in 1.1,
>"release" 1.0 for 1.2a -- funny, since 1.2a is "beta" ;-).

The calender is cool mostly because of the really nice xlst tranforms
floating around on the internet.  Hopefully this will tie into evo, oo,
and kronolith soon.

>Although it's not vCalendar (attachment-based) or iCalendar (FTP/HTTP
>publication), it uses the iPlanet approach that Apple is also adopting.

They call it xCal these days I think.

>Evolution and Mozilla support POP-SSL and IMAP-SSL.

Evo's ldaps support is pretty buggy unfortunately.  As is there LDAP
SASL support,  but SASL IMAP seems to work OK.

>As far as the server, I though Cyrus does SSL natively but I've never
>tried it.  Alternatively, you can "wrap" any port in SSL via the
>"stunnel" command.  I've used it with regular WU-POP and it worked
>perfectly for me.

Are we talking about self signed certs?  The RPM generates these
automatically.  What specifically are your questions.