[KLUG Members] KLUG Meeting Notes - 10/22/2002
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KALAMAZOO LINUX USER'S GROUP
MEMBERS AND GUESTS - COME JOIN US FOR A MEETING!!!
http://kalamazoolinux.org/meetings
WE MEET WEEKLY, EACH TUESDAY AT 7:00PM.
Our meeting site is the Kalamazoo Chamber
of Commerce office building downtown.
346 W. Michigan Ave. - Kalamazoo, MI 49007
http://kazoolug.org/meetings/maps.php3 <=== MAP!
Tuesday October 22, 2002 7:00PM
KLUG Meeting Notes - Summary
I. PRESENTATION RECAP
II. NEXT WEEK'S MEETING INFO <=== GEEK JEOPARDY FUN!!!
III. PROJECT REPORTS HALLOWEEN PARTY!!!
IV. GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS
Tonight's Meeting Moderator:
KLUG Chairperson Dirk Bartley
I. PRESENTATION RECAP
THIS WEEK'S KLUG PRESENTATION: (19 active KLUG participants)
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Meet AMANDA!
by Stu Gillis
Stu Gillis presented an overview of the Advanced Maryland
Automatic Network Disk Archiver. AMANDA is a backup system
that allows the administrator of a LAN to set up a single master
backup server to back up multiple hosts to a single large
capacity tape drive. AMANDA uses native dump and/or GNU tar
facilities and can back up a large number of workstations
running multiple versions of Unix. Recent versions can also
use SAMBA to back up Microsoft Windows 95/NT hosts."
PRESENTATION SUMMARY:
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Stu used a Linux OS powered laptop running the K Office
application with the KLUG SVGA projector to teach us the
key aspects of AMANDA! He told us that over 1,500 major
users report organizational use of this data backup Open
Source software. Stu felt AMANDA was a solid Linux and
Unix solution. His organization depends on its function.
AMANDA uses native dump or the GNU Tar archiver to back up
whole networks with multi-platform users. It even backs
up the Microsoft format systems using the SaMBa server. It
has a built-in scheduler that adjusts itself for optimum
usage.
Stu showed us how to install, configure, set up tape labels
and rotation, estimate capacity needs, and restore data.
The next version will reportedly handle encryption of the data
using ssh and other Unix tools. We heard stories of how Stu
implemented this application for his employer and some of
the notable considerations he encountered.
Data security through back up and restore procedures can
often be overlooked as a REQUIRED system utility until the
inevitable situation arises where restoration is needed.
Over and over network dependent operations have discovered
the value of safeguarding their OS, applications, and data.
It is not IF you will need back up data, but WHEN! Don't
get caught without at least two archives of everything.
After one system 'rebuild from scratch' nightmare, you'll
never forget to make sure your data is secure again.
Stu recommends these references:
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Where he got much of his information -
http://www.backupcentral.com/amanda.html
Articles that should be of interest -
http://www.samag.com/documents/s=7033/sam02041/sam02041.html
Where to get this Open Source application -
ftp://ftp.amanda.org/pub/amanda
- more -
http://www.amanda.org/
http://www.amanda.org/cgi-bin/fom? Amanda Faq-O-Matic
Stu Gillis is a System Administrator for the Kalamazoo branch
of Venturi Technology Partners, Inc. He is Vice Chairperson of
KLUG and a strong supporter of Open Source and Linux. Also
known for his Linux promotional contributions at KLUG public
outreach demonstrations (he earned the nickname 'showguy').
An appreciated contributor to many of KLUG's special projects.
NOTE -
* Must come to three meetings to qualify as a full member.
II. NEXT KLUG MEETING - TUESDAY 10/29/2002
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Halloween Party: Geek Jeopardy!!!
by Adam Williams assisted by Brian Ritz
Come join KLUG for it's annual Halloween party, this year
including Open Source jeopardy!!! Prizes, Trivia, and Food!
This years topics: Geek Cinema, CPU Architecures, YRO,
Redmond, LDAP, Samba, X11, Slang, XML, CLI, "Things that
spin", and "RFC Potpurri"
Adam is a network administrator based in Grand Rapids,
but the network he deals with is all over Michigan,
with a couple of hundred workstations, running Linux
and other operating systems. Not only does he deal
with domain issues at work, but he is also the owner of
the domain "whitemice.org". Adam has been a regular
contributor to technical discussions on the main KLUG
mailing list, both presenting and solving some of the
most challenging networking and configuration problems.
Brian Ritz works at UPS and also as a shipping department
specialist at ETMA Supply in Grand Rapids. Brian has been
working with Linux almost exclusively as a user of the
Whitemice.Org network. He holds a degree in Finance from
Grand Valley State University.
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PARTY SUMMARY FROM 2001!!! <<<KLUG FLASHBACK>>>
Halloween Party: Geek Jeopardy
By Adam Williams (KLUG Program Director)
There were many boxes with assorted large pizza's, several
gallons of carbonated beverages and very nice homemade
brownies (Stu's kids made these delights!) That pizza was
hot and tasty!
We had an opportunity to strut (or should that be struct?) our
geek plummage in a round of Geek Jeopardy! This included five
questions from each of the following topics: GNOME, the Kernel,
Logging, Jargon, Slashdot Polls, PAM & NSS, Printing, LDAP,
Personalities, /bin, Network Terms, Geek Flicks, Debugging Tools,
Net History, WAN, Ethernet, and, of course, Misc. The questions
were worth 64, 128, 256, 512 or 1024 points. Those 1024 point
questions were REAL difficult! Bruce took us through almost
all of the topic's 1024 point questions and he held the topic
choice for about a dozen of these. We broke into three teams
of four KLUGites. Brian did an excellent job of keeping score
and Adam was the master of ceremonies - reader of the questions!
Adam and Brian did a great job of getting everyone involved
and helping with the humor! Vanna White would have been proud
of Brian!
T E A M B W O N G E E K J E O P A R D Y
Team B - consisting of Dirk, John, Richard and Robert G. were
the grand winners with a score of 4,096! Team A had 1,436 and
Team C had a score of minus 1,728! There were several standouts
on the losing teams that made great attempts to overcome Team B's
obvious superiority! I saw everyone laughing and having a great
time... the side comments were priceless!
NOTE -
* Must come to three meetings to qualify as a full member.
III. LINUX OR KLUG RELATED PROJECT REPORTS -
N E W S F L A S H E S ! ! !
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RED HAT LINUX VERSION 8.0.x HAS BEEN RELEASED
Current Linux OS kernel version 2.4.18-x
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BS-WARE IS AVAILABLE FOR YOU NOW!
VISIT ===> http://kalamazoolinux.org/bsware/
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K L U G O F F I C E R
E L E C T I O N S C O M I N G I N J A N U A R Y !!!
* TUESDAY JANUARY 21ST MEETING *
Nominate KLUG Members for Offices! Participate in the Vote.
http://kalamazoolinux.org/organize - for more info -
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READ EXTREME LINUX NEWS FEED - IT ALMOST HAPPENS HERE
http://slashdot.org
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KLUG HAS ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CHAMBER
of Commerce that includes support of our networking
services. KLUG is entitled to facilities usage,
access to the Jas Network DSL line bandwidth, and
being recognized as an important part of the local
business community. THE CONTRACTS ARE ALL SIGNED!
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MEETING GREETER NEEDED FOR CHAMBER KLUG MEETINGS
Someone to assist with Chamber building access.
For security reasons, KLUG needs entrance and exit
door control. Can you arrive early and leave last?
CONTACT CHAIR DIRK BARTLEY <bartleyd2@net-link.net>
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A FREE 802.11b WIRELESS NETWORK WITH 4 WIRELESS ACCESS
points (WAP) is available within the Chamber building
and is provided by the Dill Companies, Inc. Bring your
wireless cards to KLUG meetings. When a KLUG member
needs to access the internet while downtown, stop in
and park/compute in the Chamber parking lot.
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THIS IS THE WAY TO GET THESE WEEKLY KLUG MEETING NOTES! <--*HEY!*
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MAKE SURE YOU ARE SIGNED UP for the KLUG mailing lists!
Diversified mailing lists can be found on our web site.
http://kalamazoolinux.org/listserv/
Facilitated by - listmaster@kalamazoolinux.org John Bridleman
Currently Available KLUG Lists:
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LIST DESCRIPTION
Members The main KLUG mailing list <--- Weekly Meeting Notes!
Novices A list for Linux beginners to ask questions
Hardware List for hardware discussions
Advocacy Pros & cons of different software
Inschool A list for Linux in schools project
Driftwood KLUG project of constructing a IP PBX
Phpsig Discussion of PHP web programming
Speakers Speakers and presentation topics
LDAPannounce Adam's LDAP related project announcements
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DRIFTWOOD PROJECT FORMS AND LAUNCHES MAILING LIST
A teleconferencing and Linux PC PBX project that
is open to anyone interested and exists to focus on
the open source program Asterisk. Join the Driftwood
mailing list and see what is planned for this hands-on
local project. We might be broadcasting KLUG meetings
on the net and more. * STILL TIME TO GET INVOLVED!!! *
http://kalamazoolinux.org/listserv/listserv.php3
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===> SURPLUS EQUIPMENT DONATIONS ARE NOW BEING ACCEPTED <===
KLUG now has Sec. 501c3 - Charitable Tax Deduction
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KLUG'S 501c3 TAX DEDUCTIBLE STATUS HAS BEEN ATTAINED
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This is a big step forward for KLUG to finally have
attained Non-profit Charitable Organization status.
Now businesses and individuals can contribute hardware,
software, services, cash, membership dues, and other
contributions WITH FULL INCOME TAX DEDUCTIBILITY!!!
There are many OTHER benefits that 'non-profits' enjoy.
CONTACT CHAIR DIRK BARTLEY <bartleyd2@net-link.net>
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NOW YOU CAN USE THE URL HTTP://KAZOOLUG.ORG TO
summon KLUG web pages. Shorter and more exact!
You can still use the longer URL as a valid address!
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LIBRARY DATABASE HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND POSTED
Dirk Bartley has prepared a database to assist you
in locating and requesting KLUG library resources
http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/library/
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KLUG "PC SHOW" PUBLIC OUTREACH PROJECT HAD A SUCCESSFUL EVENT!
The big yellow KLUG banner was again proudly displayed on Sat.
August 31, 2002 at the ALSCS COMPUTER SHOW in KALAMAZOO, MI!
This was an important back-to-school show for this fall season.
This show was again held at the Kalamazoo County Fairgrounds.
Again, lots of Linux CD-ROM's were made available to the public
and many contacts were made. To get more info or to volunteer
to help with the next public event that KLUG has planned, please
Contact KLUG Chairperson "Dirk Bartley" <bartleyd2@net-link.net>
or Vice Chairperson "Stu Gillis" <showperson@kalamazoolinux.org>
BOOGIES CYBER CAFE - KLUG's public commercial Linux project.
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NEWS BULLETIN - BOOGIES HAS BEEN SOLD - AWAITING STATUS INFO
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Boogies is now... "Ali Babba's Hookah Emporium," REALLY!
The Boogies project has been terminated and relocation
options are being considered. We can help create another
cybercafe or do something completely different. Send your
great ideas to "Robert G. Brown" <bob@acm.org> or "Dirk
Bartley" <bartleyd2@net-link.net>.
A KLUG PC RUNNING LINUX HAS BEEN PLACED AT THE KALAMAZOO CHAMBER
of Commerce to provide DHCP services. This will enable easier
internet access for KLUG members attending meetings at the Chamber.
Lots more additions planned between KLUG and K C of C. A newsgroup
server, web server, networking, and eventually EVERYTHING! The
synergy is peaking! Hardware is being installed and KLUG
volunteers are needed. Contact "Robert G. Brown" <bob@acm.org>
or "Dirk Bartley" <bartleyd2@net-link.net>.
KLUG IS NOW THE PROUD OWNER OF A PRESENTATION PROJECTOR!!!
SPECIFICATIONS OF INFOCUS LP425ZVB PROJECTOR - Cost $1,599.00
7.4 pounds, 9x12x3.9, 900 lumens, Manual zoom lens
SVGA (800x600) with compressed XGA (1024x768)
HDTV support, 400:1 Contrast, Throw 5 to 20ft
16.7 million colors, 2.4 to 12.6ft image size
16 degree key stoning, 1 Watt audio
IF YOU KNOW OF ADDITIONAL LINKS that should be included
in the KLUG LINKS page... please send e-mail suggestions
to <linkmaster@kalamazoolinux.org> so the LINKS team of
The Link Master will review the content of the web site.
If you haven't checked these links out lately, take a look.
http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/links
GREAT MEETING PRESENTATIONS. Your opportunity
to share your Linux experiences and see what
other people are doing. Come enjoy a meeting!
If you have an IDEA FOR A KLUG PRESENTATION or know
of a good speaker, we want to hear about it! Make
contact with our KLUG Program Director, Adam Williams
<awilliam@whitemice.org>. DSL, a Pentium Class Desktop
PC, VGA Projector, VGA Monitors, and an Overhead Projector
are Available for Use in KLUG Presentations! Contact
Dirk Bartley <bartleyd2@net-link.net>
NOTE -
* Must come to three meetings to qualify as a full member.
IV. GENERAL KLUG ANNOUNCEMENTS
WHAT IS KLUG? -
KLUG is a volunteer group formed by and for LINUX
system users in the Kalamazoo Michigan area. We
support, promote, and develop activities related
to the use, study, and application of LINUX in the
local community.
THE BEGINNER'S MEETINGS ARE HELD the first Tuesday of each
month. Linux basics and distribution installs are the
lessons of these evenings. If you do want KLUG's FREE help
installing Linux on your computer at one of these meetings,
see URL: http://kalamazoolinux.org/meetings/installform.html
Contact the KLUG Installmasters for more information:
installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org
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THE KLUG STANDARD BEGINNER'S PRESENTATION - LINUX BOOT CAMP!!!
http://kalamazoolinux.org/presentations/beginner01.html
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Note:
As Linux matures as an OS, the educational needs are evolving.
The Beginner's Meeting format is changing with those needs.
It is difficult to cover all the basics in one meeting. Linux
is not just for CS experts and IT professionals. The "BASICS"
meetings are intended for those with limited experience with
Operating System's or even Personal Computer's. Your comments
and questions are welcomed!
IF YOU KNOW OF ADDITIONAL LINKS that should be included
in the KLUG LINKS page... please send e-mail suggestions
to <linkmaster@kalamazoolinux.org> so the LINKS team
can review the content of the site.
http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/links
REDHAT LINUX CERTIFICATION information is available
from a KLUG officer. See the club listserv for more
info or check certifications on the Links page.
http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/links/certification.html
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Y O U ARE ASKED TO REMEMBER THAT K L U G IS...
A ---> VOLUNTEER <--- ORGANIZATION!!!
Please Honor the Spirit of the GPL! Is it REALLY Free?
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VOLUNTEER CLUB POSITIONS NOW AVAILABLE:
All KLUG positions ARE NOT occupied currently. Some KLUG
volunteers are doing double duty. Please consider
serving the members as one of the following...
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SEE THIS LISTING FOR KLUG OFFICE DESCRIPTIONS
http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/organize/
- NUTRI MASTER Provide cookies and milk for KLUG meetings. *
* {Reimbursement for refreshment purchases!}
- MEETING GREETER Someone to assist with Chamber building access.
For security reasons, we need entrance and exit door control.
- OTHER POSITIONS ARE AVAILABLE, SOME FILL TWO VOLUNTEER SLOTS!
More info from "Dirk Bartley" <bartleyd2@net-link.net>
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# J O I N & S U P P O R T K L U G !!!
# Be a KLUG Supporting Member! $25 annually *
# ($.50 per meeting) TRULY A GREAT BARGAIN!!!
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# THE SUPPORTING MEMBERSHIP BENEFITS INCLUDE (= #)
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# GREAT MEETING PRESENTATIONS. Your opportunity
to share your Linux experiences and see what
other people are doing. Come enjoy a meeting!
If you have an IDEA FOR A KLUG PRESENTATION or know
of a good speaker, we want to hear about it! Make
contact with our KLUG Program Director, Adam Williams
<awilliam@whitemice.org>. A Pentium Class Desktop
PC, DSL Web Connection, VGA Projector, and an
Overhead Projector are Available for Use in KLUG
Presentations! Contact Dirk Bartley <bartleyd2@net-link.net>
# NON-COMMERCIAL OR PERSONAL WEB SITE HOSTED on the
KLUG server. Single page .html files can be sent to the
interim KLUG webmaster@kalamazoolinux.org for
posting. These are intended to be low traffic web
sites displaying appropriate content.
# CHECK OUT THE NEW KLUG LIBRARY PAGE - See the updated
inventory listing of our KLUG Library. The items listed in
green are only available to KLUG supporting members.
We have Debian, SuSE, Mandrake, and WinLinux distribution
packages available in our library along with several others.
Did you know we have *non-Linux* distribution additions!
Everything else is available to anyone that can come to a
KLUG meeting. If you would like to check out one of these
items, please check it off and submit the form on the KLUG
library page. We are sharing these next two items as an F-Y-I !
Please do show up at the meeting if you have books requested.
What about you? Do you need to return any KLUG library books?
Contact Dirk Bartley for more info <bartleyd2@net-link.net>.
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RED HAT v8.0.x HAS BEEN RELEASED
http://www.redhat.com/apps/download/
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************** BS-WARE SOFTWARE DISCOUNTS ***************
This Linux distribution now comes on three (3) CD's.
Supporting Member Discount on BS-Ware is $1.50 per
CD or 50% off! Bruce distributes a non-commercial
version of the Red Hat Linux OS! Notice - BS-Ware
prices are $3 per CD. A Great Deal!!! Thanks Bruce!!!
o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o
VISIT ===> http://kalamazoolinux.org/bsware/
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See Bruce's BS-Ware web site to find out what Linux & other
distributions and application software he has available.
E-mail him in advance about your needs and pick up your
CD's at the next meeting. bruce@armintl.com
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NOTE -
* Must come to three meetings to qualify as a full member.
Bring a friend... who wants to learn about Open Source!
THE KALAMAZOO LINUX USERS GROUP WOULD LIKE TO THANK
the Law firm of Kreis Enderle Callander & Hudgins
for their generousity toward KLUG. Matt DePerno has
made contributions of his time to assist us in our
successful achievement of 501(c)(3) tax status with
the IRS!!!
THANKS to ARMSTRONG INTERNATIONAL, INC. for providing their
much appreciated IT Resources to support KLUG and Linux.
THANKS to KALAMAZOO CHAMBER OF COMMERCE for providing their
well appointed facilities for our meetings. Jas Networks has
donated a DSL (2.3 Mbit) connection that KLUG uses during the
meetings to allow attendees and presenters to connect by
network cable to a hub. An 802.11b wireless network connection
is also available from Michigan Wireless Networks. Many
projectors, flip chart easels, and projection screens have
been made available.
CONTACT INFORMATION:
Kalamazoo Linux Users Group, Inc.
6749 South Westnedge Avenue
Suite K-288
Portage MI 49002
e-mail address: chairman@kalamazoolinux.org
web site http://kalamazoolinux.org
Copyright 2002 Kalamazoo Linux Users Group, Inc.
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