[KLUG Members] run windows within linux

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>From: Adam Williams <adam@morrison-ind.com>
>Reply-To: members@kalamazoolinux.org
>To: members@kalamazoolinux.org
>Subject: Re: [KLUG Members] run windows within linux
>Date: 12 Jun 2003 09:55:28 -0400
>
> > >ok I'm fairly a newbie to linux. I've already got redhat and mandrake
> > >installed on 2 different old hdds. now I was wonder what is the most
> > >effective way to run windows apps and maybe some fairly low end games 
>within
> > >linux? I have heard everything from vmware, to wine to just running a 
>linux
> > >distro like xandos or something like that. most of the apps I really 
>need to
> > >keep running sadly are things like VB. I would enjoy nothing more than 
>to
> > >move to linux and toss MS out the window. any help would be greatly
> > >appreciated.
> > VMware lets you run multiple operating systems at once.  Inside Linux,
> > you run an entire Windows OS and all of it's applications.  The
> > advantages are it can run almost every application.  It may have
> > problems with apps, like games, that need a lot of speed.  Otherwise,
> > it runs almost everything I've tried very nicely.
>
>VMware works very well, but is expensive and pretty resource hungry.  I
>wouldn't run on on a sub-500Mhz-256Mb box at minimum.  It will run just
>about anything, and performance isn't bad if you have enough resources.
>In full screen mode people won't even know they are being hosted by
>Linux.
>
>Win4Lin does much the same thing, it is also a commerical package but
>less expensive (I think).  I've never tried it as when I bought VMware
>it only worked with the 9x windows family which made it useless to me.
>
>A free alternative to VMware is BOCHs.  I don't know what the current
>state of that project is,  but rumor was awhile ago that they could host
>NT4.
>
> > Wine, OTOH, is free (like Linux), it uses less memory/resources, and it
> > runs just the applications (no Windows OS required).
>
>I view wine as pretty much not even worth attempting.  I hear good
>things, see "this app works perfectly", etc... But every time I try it
>close to nothing works as expected.  IMHO the Wine project has a been a
>catastrophic failure.
>
> > The disadvantages of Wine is not all applications run in it, and it can
> > be more difficult to get working.
>
>Is there an application that does work?  For cyring out load even
>POLEDIT.EXE kills it.
>
> > Personally I would stay away from both of them unless absolutely needed.
>
>yep.
>
> > I'd rather find native Linux applications to replace the Windows apps.
> > i.e.  Use OpenOffice or StarOffice instead of M$ Office.
> > And of course you could always triple boot Redhat/Mandrake/Windows.
>
>But booting back and forth between operating systems sucks.
>


Ok so what problems or slow down might I face on my current machine at home 
which is a AMD athlon T-bird 1.2 OC'd to 1.33Mhtz with 380 Megs of DDR, 
currently only a 12 gg hdd and I have a small 4 gig (both hdd's are only 
5400 rpm but will change with my upgrade) which has my redhat currently 
installed. Also since I have both redhat and mandrake 9.0 which would you 
recommend being better for most things?  I also wanted to thank everyone for 
your help. Dirk told me you all were very helpful and I'm glad he told me 
where to find the meetings at as well, which I plan on attending soon 
hopefully.

  - Richard

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