[KLUG Members] KLUG Meeting Notes for 10/21/2003

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KLUG Meeting Notes:  Tuesday - October 21, 2003  7:00PM       

I.    PRESENTATION RECAP    
II.   NEXT WEEK'S MEETING INFO   <===  GEEK JEOPARDY!!!   
III.  KLUG MAILING LISTS                  
IV.   KLUG & LINUX NEWS FLASHES 
V.    KLUG CONTACT & MEETING INFO 

Tonight's Meeting Moderator:  KLUG Chairperson:  Todd Pillars 

I.  PRESENTATION RECAP           
THIS WEEK'S KLUG PRESENTATION:   (39 active KLUG participants) 
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Novell's Nterprise Linux Services 
by  Joe Felisky  Novell Tech Director - Great Lakes & Mid-states

Novell embraces the emergence of Linux and open-source software 
as key enabling technologies for enterprise solutions. Novell 
Nterprise Linux Services is a crucial component of the Novell 
promise to deliver One Net - a world without information boundaries. 
Novell Nterprise Linux Services let you take advantage of the 
open-source benefits of Linux combined with the powerful set of 
enterprise services previously only available on NetWare®.  

http://www.novell.com/solutions/nterprise/

http://www.novell.com/linux/nterprise_linux_services.html

http://www.novell.com/products/

PRESENTATION SUMMARY:
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Want to see the slides from the Novell presentation?
Check the past presentations page on the KLUG web site: 
http://kalamazoolinux.org/presentations/

Joe Felisky was wearing a Ximian t-shirt and a big smile as he
told us about Novell's transitioning into the Enterprise Linux 
marketplace.  He had two slide presentations, the first covering
Novell Nterprise services with overall Novell strategies and 
offerings.  The second was about Ximian products.  For marketing 
information and detailed explanations of the products see the 
sites listed above.  Novell is excited about Linux and Open Source 
Software.  Novell sees that it has an existing IT support base to 
take into the new market which has great value and opportunity.

The first slide show focused on Novell Nterprise.  All of the
components of Nterprise are available now.  A unified release 
is scheduled for November 2003.  Novell is transitioning from
Netware 6.5 to fully Linux empowered Netware 7.0 with a release
date estimated in August 2005.  In addition to the Nterprise 
information, we heard about Novell's general Linux and product 
strategies.  Sure sounded like Novell is fully committed to the
transition to Linux.  The integration of the Novell File System
with the Linux platform is scheduled for August of 2004.  

Nterprise now runs on top of SuSE, Red Hat, or Novell's existing
network kernel.  Novell provides full OS and application support.

NOVELL NTERPRISE         Release date - November 4, 2003

Component			Novell Solution
------------------------	-------------------------
Identity Services		eDirectory w/ DirXML
File Services			iFolder
Print Services			iPrint
Messaging Services		NetMail
Web Experience			exteNd
Management Services		Ximian Red Carpet
Install Services		command based
Administrative Services		iManager

The second slide show focused on the acquisition of Ximian and
that product line.  We saw a Linux adoption graphic that showed 
strong growth rates in both server and desktop implementations.
The purchase of Ximian was a key strategic move for Novell and
provided them with both products and OSS culture expertise.  Joe
cut this slide show short as we had recently had Chris Lahey
from Ximian Gnome present and he had covered most of this info.

Products Reviewed:
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Ximian Desktop 2 (XD2)
Ximian Evolution e-mail client
Mono (OSS .Net)
Red Carpet Enterprise Server

http://www.ximian.com

Joe took questions during and after his presentation.   It was a
packed meeting room in the Kalamazoo Chamber tonight with a record
turnout to hear what Novell is planning with Linux.  Contact:
jfelisky@novell.com  or  kdownard@novell.com  for more info.
Karen Downard is Novell's representative in the Kalamazoo area.

Joe Felisky is the Technical Director of the Great Lakes region 
for Novell and will present Novell's Nterprise Linux Services. 
Joe has been with Novell since 1997, working first with the 
Enterprise Accounts team.  His responsibilities as Technical 
Director for the Great Lakes region include leading the Systems 
Engineering staffs in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana and Kentucky.  Prior 
to joining Novell, Joe spent over 12 years as a consultant for 
Electronic Data Systems working as a strategist for the General 
Motors account.

TECHNICAL RESOURCE:
The Novell and IBM Linux Solutions seminar is taking place in 
Grand Rapids on November 13, 2003. Register today!  All attendees 
will receive a Linux Solutions kit which will include a Novell 
Nterprise Linux Services Beta One CD.   During this informative 
event, Novell experts will show you how Novell Nterprise Linux 
Services, Ximian solutions, and IBM can help you enhance your 
NetWare environment, embrace open source solutions, and deliver 
secure, consistent services and support across your NetWare 
and Linux systems.
http://www.novell.com/linux/seminar.html


II.  NEXT KLUG MEETING - TUESDAY  10/28/2003   
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GEEK JEOPARDY EXTRAVAGANZA        ( READ  P A R T Y ! ! ! )
by Adam Williams and Brian Ritz

EVERYONE - other LUGs, other technical groups, etc... - are 
invited to send a team to this years 2003 Geek Jeopardy event. 
Just let me know your coming - programdirector@kalamazoolinux.org

Come celebrate the true joy of being geek - knowing all that 
minutia, arcana, and esoteric information that is so handy when 
drafting new pick-up lines! This years categories are sure to 
result in a cornucopia of sardonic quips, mythopoetical 
exclamations, and maybe even a few broken spectacles.  What more 
thrilling scene is there than the victor's squeals of pure 
geeker-joy while the defeated shout curses at them in a 
combination of Klingon and Sindarin?

Players: Up to four team members per round, you can switch out 
as many players as you want between rounds.  Each team is 
permitted two substitutions per round at any point. An 
accidental third substitution will cost the team 2048 points 
in the single jeopardy round, and 4096 points in the double 
jeopardy round.  Any additional substitution will cost the team 
10,248 points, regardless of the round.  No substitutions are 
permitted during final jeopardy.  Closed book, no laptops 
(Bruce!).

Team with the final highest (positive scores only [$score > 0], 
not absolute value [!abs($score)]) score wins.

The 2003 Geek Jeopardy Categories:

Single Jeopardy: "Geek Cinema", "Fonts", "Kerberos V", Emulators", 
"Firewalls", "Groupware", "DNS", "Geek Slang", "SQL", "WiFi", 
"NASA", and "2.6"

Each single jeopardy category contains question worth 1, 2, 4, 8, 
16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, and 1024 points.

Double Jeopardy: "Geeks & Myths", "8 Bit", "LDAP", "True UNIX(s)", 
"CLI", "Not IP", "ARPA", "VOIP" "Mono & .Net", "GNOME", "In The 
Court", and "C++"

Each double jeopardy category contains a question worth 2, 4, 8, 
16, 32, 64, 256, 512, 1024, and 2048 points.

And of course the final Jeopardy question - Well, you'll have to 
be there to discover that category.

Adam Williams is a network administrator based in Grand Rapids, 
but the network he deals with is all over Michigan, with a couple 
of hundred workstations, running Linux and other Operating Systems. 
Not only does he deal with domain issues at work, but he is also 
the owner of the domain "whitemice.org". Adam has been a regular 
contributor to technical discussions on our main mailing list, 
both presenting and solving some of the most challenging networking 
and configuration problems.  Adam is known as an LDAP wizard in
the global Linux community and has written a classic piece that
explains how it works and what is necessary to get LDAP functional.  
He is also part of the early core of organizers and nurturers of
KLUG and has served as Program Director for many years, providing
the content of KLUG's world class educational meetings each week.
The Eloquent Master of Ceremonies and originator of the legendary
KLUG GEEK JEOPARDY EXTRAVAGANZA provides stellar answers in search 
of those categorized Linux culture focused questions.   
BE THERE OR ELSE!!!  

Brian Ritz is currently working in commercial logistics
and has been working with Linux almost exclusively as 
a user of the Whitemice.Org network. He holds a degree in 
Finance from Grand Valley State University and is KLUG's 
resident expert on GNUCash.  Brian is a KLUG Officer, in
the position of Treasurer of the Michigan Corporation and
IRS 501c3 Non-profit organization.


III.   K L U G    M A I L I N G    L I S T S  - 
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http://kalamazoolinux.org/listserv/
Facilitated by - John Bridleman  listmaster@kalamazoolinux.org   
Sign up and participate to serve the Open Source community!!! 
(240 plus registrations on the "KLUG members" mailing list)


IV.   K L U G    &    L I N U X     N E W S    F L A S H E S ! ! ! 
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LINUX KERNEL V2.6.0-TEST8 RELEASED
"It's that time again. Latest release is hot off the presses in this 
final bit of stabilization before 2.6.0 is finally released."
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/18/1547226
&mode=thread&tid=106&tid=185
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LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD
Linus Torvalds wants me to believe he's too boring for this story. 
The creator of the Linux operating system portrays himself as a 
mild-mannered soul leading a humdrum life, just another guy lucky 
enough to own a McMansion in the hills above San Jose courtesy of 
the money-mad late '90s. Before agreeing to meet me, Torvalds sent 
an email imagining that I'd be overwhelmed by the tedium of 
hanging around with the likes of him.
http://www.linux.org/news/2003/10/16/0001.html
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OPEN SOURCE EVERYWHERE
Software is just the beginning … open source is doing for mass 
innovation what the assembly line did for mass production. Get 
ready for the era when collaboration replaces the corporation.
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.11/linus.html
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RED HAT HAS HELPED TRANSFORM LINUX
Red Hat CEO puts Linux in a position to challenge Microsoft's 
dominance.
http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/
2003/10/16/software_insurgent/
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CAN OPEN SOURCE TRULY SAVE THE WORLD?
"The World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS), convened by 
the United Nations at the urging of the International 
Telecommunications Union (ITU), intends to address the global 
economic, societal, and political changes being wrought as our 
information-based society replaces the old industrial one. Free 
and Open Source Software (FOSS), was to play a major role in 
WSIS's plans for closing these information gaps. Until recently." 
http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/10/20/1312256
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LINUX AND THE GPL: TOGETHER FOREVER
Like it or lump it, Linux and the GPL go together like ducks and 
water, and the Free Software Foundation is there to make sure it 
stays that way. . .
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1343259,00.asp
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RISE OF LINUX TOTALLY UNSTOPPABLE, IBM SAYS
An IBM executive here in Berlin said in a roundtable about Linux 
and the challenges it faces that the rise of Open Source and Linux 
is unstoppable
http://www.linux.org/news/2003/10/18/0003.html
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SEVEN YEARS OF KDE CELEBRATED
"Almost exactly 7 years ago, Matthias Ettrich announced the start 
of a new desktop environment, originally called Kool Desktop 
Environment. Check out LinuxFrench's article (English translation) 
and the news at Dot KDE. Thanks to the KDE Team for a great 7 years!"  
http://slashdot.org/articles/03/10/20/1814243.shtml?
tid=106&tid=121&tid=185&tid=189
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NEW APACHE MODULE FOR WEB INTRUSION DETECTION
"Mod_security 1.7 has been released. Mod_security is an open source 
intrusion detection and prevention engine for web applications. 
It operates embedded into the web server, acting as a powerful 
umbrella - shielding applications from attacks. The latest release
adds output scanning to Apache 2.x; the ability to analyze cookies; 
functionality to change the identity of the web server; several new 
actions for rule grouping; new null-byte attack anti-evasion code."  
http://apache.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/19/1239257
&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=148&tid=172&tid=185
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BOOK REVIEWS: THE ART OF UNIX PROGRAMMING
"Eric S. Raymond (or ESR) is widely known for the groundbreaking 
series of essays in his book, The Cathedral and the Bazaar.  In 
TCatB, he makes a credible case for why open source sofware works 
so well, and why community-supported software won't put developers 
out of a job.  The arguments presented in Cathedral and the Bazaar
were persuasive and original and now regarded as obvious. In his 
new book, Art of Unix Programming (available for free on the web), 
ESR stakes an even bolder claim: that initial design decisions 
make Unix uniquely well-suited to take advantage of open source's 
power. This book is an attempt to explain why Unix is so...well, 
Unixy."
http://books.slashdot.org/books/03/10/20/1656259.shtml?tid=106
&tid=126&tid=130&tid=156&tid=185&tid=190
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SUN SOLARIS VS LINUX: THE X86 SMACK-DOWN
"Tony Bourke put together a long article, benchmarking File System, 
System, Compilation, OpenSSL and Web Performance for both Linux and 
Solaris on x86 hardware. While SPARC's Solaris is said to be more 
optimized than its x86 counterpart on the other hand so is Linux 2.6 
compared to 2.4. Solaris-x86 performed well in the tests, but Linux 
2.4 seems to win most of the tests and the overall impressions."  
http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/03/10/20/
1525220.shtml?tid=102&tid=106&tid=185&tid=187&tid=190
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THE ULTIMATE MAME BOX
Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator, or MAME for short.  "Aaron Mahler, 
director of network services at Sweetbriar College, has built the 
ultimate MAME box. His site describes his efforts in detail. Lot 
of cool pics, too." 
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/19/2120235
&mode=thread&tid=127&tid=137&tid=186
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ON LINUX-WINDOWS INTEROPERABILITY
"...a lengthy article about the issues that enterprises face when 
vying for Linux+Windows interoperability, as most of the corporate 
infrastructures are seldom monocultural.  What's also interesting 
is the InformationWeek surveys of the IT professionals. The 
following questions are asked and the responses to them are nicely 
graphed: 1) Reasons for choosing Windows, 2) Reasons for choosing 
Linux, 3) Top Windows concerns, 4) Top Linux concerns, 5) Top 
interoperability issues."  
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/19/1249218
&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=163
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BENCHMARKING THE SCALABILITY OF BSD AND LINUX
"I recently did some benchmarks for a talk about scalable network 
programming I held at Linux Kongress 2003. The benchmark results 
turned out to be surprising enough to present them on their own. 
This ought to end those pesky flame wars about whose IP stack or 
memory management scales better. Or maybe not."  
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/19/
0130256&mode=thread&tid=106&tid=130&tid=185&tid=190
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FREEBSD V5.1-RELEASE REVIEWED
"Here's a full review of FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE complete with screen 
shots, a short comparison with GNU/Linux, and some notes on 
migrating to FreeBSD from Windows and GNU/Linux."  
http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/17/
168236&mode=thread&tid=122&tid=185&tid=190
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LEARNING FROM KALEIDOSCOPE
Hordes of Free Software and Unix geeks are switching to OS X and 
loving it. It's unlikely that any of the Unix projects being ported 
to OS X will suffer Kaleidoscope's ultimate fate, simply because 
their code is open and already runs on other operating systems. 
But some projects might be in for nasty surprises when new versions 
of OS X come out that break existing ports in deep and fundamental 
ways. 
http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/1011/
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LINUX IS SOMETIMES A PLEASANT SURPRISE
"Sometimes, companies end up gaining advantages from Linux even 
though Linux wasn't mainly what they had in mind. That's what 
happened when online sporting goods retailer Anaconda Sports 
replaced its outgrown e-comm server with an IBM Websphere 
architecture combining Linux and Windows 2000 components." 
http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/10/20/1618229
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MOZILLA V1.5 - NOT JUST FOR GEEKS ANYMORE
An open-source alternative browser project for the developer 
community, Mozilla clearly was not designed to attract the people 
that, say, would gravitate toward AOL.  Or, in Mozilla speak, 
end-users. That is, those of us with less-than-high tech acumen. 
"Another way to put it," Blizzard told NewsFactor, "is 'would my 
mother be able to use this?' Before, the answer was 'no, not 
really.'" 
http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/10/20/1344210
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DEVELOPERS BELIEVE IN LINUX SECURITY
Analysts and coders weigh the relative security of Windows XP and 
Linux following release of a recent survey.
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1356825,00.asp
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THE CHURCH OF LINUX IS A HOUSE DIVIDED
Many fans of the Linux computer operating system exhibit a fervor 
bordering on religious. But even this church has its schisms.  Linux 
often is held up as the shining achievement of the "open source" 
movement: Finnish whiz kid Linus Torvalds got the software rolling 
during 1991 and programmers around the world keep improving it free 
of charge, for anyone to use. Provided, of course, that they share 
any tweaks they make.  But before there was Linux or open source, 
there was GNU.
http://www.linux.org/news/2003/10/19/0002.html
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LINUX USERS REACHED THE 18 MILLION MARK?
What's the current size of the Linux community? About 18 million 
users, if the statistical calculations of the ten-year old Linux 
Counter project are correct.
http://counter.li.org/
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KLUG MAKES LINUX AVAILABLE AT THE LOCAL COMPUTER SHOW 
A team of KLUG volunteers and officers were on hand at the last
fairgrounds computer show to tell people about KLUG and Linux.
They talked with lots of people and demonstrated Linux for many.
BS-Ware was readily available with nice labels and jewel cases. 
To volunteer for a future show contact: showperson@kalamazoolinux.org
http://www.a1scs.com   <--- Check schedule
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IN THE OPEN SOURCE SPIRIT KLUG CALLS FOR MEETING SUPPORT VOLUNTEERS
Please don't make us RANT about organization needs for volunteers!
We need additional volunteers to act as the "Meeting Firewall" 
to handle Chamber access control and security issues.  The Chamber
has asked us to safeguard their assets as KLUG members come and 
go from the meeting room each Tuesday night.  Bob truly does need 
help with this function which requires that you get to the meetings
early and see that everything is locked up as the meeting attendees 
leave.  We have several other KLUG volunteer positions available
and many of these duties could be shared if you have an interest.  
G E T      I N V O L V E D      I N      K L U G    N O W ! ! !  
Please contact installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org for more details. 
See http://kalamazoolinux.org/organize for position descriptions.
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THE WMU COMPUTER CLUB - YAKKO IS THEIR MAIN LINUX SERVER!
The Computer Club at Western Michigan University exists to promote 
a better understanding of computers for both members of the club 
and members of the WMU community. This goal is achieved through 
various club projects, member presentations, Linux Install Parties, 
and discussions at our meetings. Do you need help getting your 
computer to function properly? Are you interested in installing 
Linux? Do you just want a place to hang out and have a good time? 
If the answer to any of those questions or any other question is 
'yes' then you should come check us out. We welcome anyone 
(regardless of computer experience) who is willing to share 
whatever talents they have, listen to others, and have a good 
time.   http://yakko.cs.wmich.edu/
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KLUG SUPPORTING MEMBERS CAN GET THEIR PICTURE ON THE WEB SITE
Want your picture posted with your name as a KLUG Supporting
Member?  Send the tasteful graphic file and your request to 
webmaster@kalamazoolinux.org. 
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KLUG NOW OWNS A NEW XGA VIDEO PROJECTOR
Adam reported that KLUG has upgraded the video projector from SVGA
to XGA!!!  From 800 x 600 to 1024 x 768, it should boost presentation
viewing pleasure.  This projector is well rated: 
INFOCUS LP335 DLP PROJECTOR   
1000 LUMEN - XGA - LP-0335-V + Extended 12 month warranty
Digital Light Processing DLP which provides sharp images under 
variable lighting conditions.  
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KLUG NEEDS VOLUNTEERS TO FILL SEVERAL VACANT POSITIONS 
"Firewall" and Education Director volunteer slots are still vacant. 
Please contact chair@kalamazoolinux.org for more details. 
Volunteers are needed for Beginner's Nights and Install fests.  
Please contact installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org for more details. 
See http://kalamazoolinux.org/organize for position descriptions. 
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KLUG NEEDS SPEAKERS FOR THE WEEKLY LINUX RELATED PRESENTATIONS! 
********* - ********* - ********* - ********* - ********* - *********  
Contact Adam if you can give a presentation on any area of Linux 
related subject or application.  He would also like to hear your 
suggestions for topics and possible speaker referrals.  Do you 
know anyone who is using Linux in Southwest Michigan and might 
be willing to share their Linux expertise by making a technical 
presentation?  Professional, individual, or commercial speakers 
on Linux accepted.  Contact programdirector@kalamazoolinux.org 
with your referrals and ideas.  See the meeting schedule for open 
dates.   http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/meetings/schedule.php3
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V.   K L U G    C O N T A C T   &   M E E T I N G    I N F O  
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KLUG WEB SITE  http://kalamazoolinux.org

MEMBERS AND GUESTS - COME JOIN US FOR A MEETING!!! 
http://kalamazoolinux.org/meetings           
WE MEET WEEKLY, EACH TUESDAY AT 7:00PM.      
                                             
Our meeting site is the Kalamazoo Chamber    
of Commerce office building downtown.          
346 W. Michigan Ave. - Kalamazoo, MI  49007 
http://kazoolug.org/meetings/maps.php3   <=== MAP! 

CONTACT INFORMATION: 
Kalamazoo Linux Users Group, Inc. 
6749 South Westnedge Avenue 
Suite K-288 
Portage  MI 49002 
e-mail address: chair@kalamazoolinux.org

NOTE:
Effective January 1st, 2002, KLUG has been granted 501C3 status by 
the IRS. This is a big step forward. Now all donations (including 
hardware, services, cash, or membership dues) are tax deductible!
                 
                  
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