[KLUG Members] KLUG Meeting Notes for 10/28/2003
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KLUG Meeting Notes: Tuesday - October 28, 2003 7:00PM
I. PRESENTATION RECAP
II. NEXT WEEK'S MEETING INFO <=== BEGINNER'S MEETING!!!
III. KLUG MAILING LISTS
IV. KLUG & LINUX NEWS FLASHES
V. KLUG CONTACT & MEETING INFO
Tonight's Meeting Moderator: KLUG Chairperson: Todd Pillars
I. PRESENTATION RECAP
THIS WEEK'S KLUG PRESENTATION: (18 active KLUG participants)
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GEEK JEOPARDY EXTRAVAGANZA ( READ P A R T Y ! ! ! )
by Adam Williams and Brian Ritz
EVERYONE - other LUGs, other technical groups, etc... - were
invited to send a team to this years 2003 Geek Jeopardy event.
programdirector@kalamazoolinux.org
KLUG celebrated the true joy of being a geek - knowing all that
minutia, arcana, and esoteric information that is so handy when
drafting new pick-up lines! This year's categories resulted
in a cornucopia of sardonic quips, mythopoetical exclamations,
and maybe even a few broken spectacles. What more thrilling
scene is there than the victor's squeals of pure geeker-joy
while the defeated shout curses at them in a combination of
Klingon and Sindarin?
GEEK JEOPARDY PARTY SUMMARY:
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It was a major geek chuckle fest complete with pizza, coffee,
soda, chips, cookies, peanuts, and more! Geek Jeopardy was a
giant success again this year! The humor was thick and the
questions humbled even the most knowledgeable Linux wizards.
The scores were evidence of the difficulty of the answers.
That made the fun increase exponentially! Many sat in utter
disbelief when they heard the answers. Adam made sure that
few of the 2048 and 1024 pointers would be claimed. Brian
Ritz did an excellent job in running the scoring spreadsheet
and keeping the game board updated. The OpenOffice.org Calc
program was used to list the categories, points, and team
totals. It worked flawlessly on the Toshiba laptop running
Red Hat v9 and was projected up on the screen with the KLUG
XGA projector.
Bruce Smith and John Bridleman were up to their old gamer
domination tricks again this year. They ran the 1024k and
512k answers knowing that if no one could come up with the
question they would retain control of the selections. That
sly strategy resulted in a second place showing. It was fun
to watch the KLUG participants sit silently stunned by the
difficulty of the higher point answers! Of course they were
equally stunned when someone could state the question for
one of those answers. In the first round only one of the
1024 answers was correctly questioned and none of 512 ones
were won.
We nearly lost the Master of Ceremonies to an uncontrollable
laughter attack around the middle of the competition. During
the night there were several times that people called out
questions for the answers without ringing in. These comical
responses turned out to be right on more than one occasion.
'Who is Microsoft' was the question to one of the standards
answers and 'Who is SCO' was the question to at least four
answers. If a team had just sat silently in their seats and
not touched the buzzers they would have been the winners.
Adam and Brian did a fantastic job of preparing for and
organizing the Geek Jeopardy event. Here is how the teams
scored...
TEAM A Dirk Bartley & Robert G. Brown
SCORE Jeopardy = -2552 Double Jeopardy = -2522
TEAM B Bruce Smith & John Bridleman & John ?
SCORE Jeopardy = -1928 Double Jeopardy = -2432
W I N N E R S W I N N E R S W I N N E R S W I N N E R S
TEAM C Jon Smitley & Peter Buxton & Bill Hollett
SCORE Jeopardy = -1306 Double Jeopardy = -1794
W I N N E R S W I N N E R S W I N N E R S W I N N E R S
TEAM D Alan Tanner & Andrew Thompson & Ralph Worick
SCORE Jeopardy = -2280 Double Jeopardy = -7004
None of the teams could enter Final Jeopardy! You can't bet
negative money in the round. The category was PHP and the
answer may as well have been spoken in Klingon or Sindarin.
Even the resident PHP guru's sat in silence shaking their
heads. Only 364 days left until Geek Jeopardy 2004! Can
Adam top himself again? There were threats to form a question
committee next year to insure easier questions. Seriously,
everyone was laughing and griping and enjoying the fun!
Geek Jeopardy champions were Wes Leonard and Andrew Thompson
last year. Jon Smitley, Peter Buxton, and Bill Hollett will
be the reigning champions for the next year. Congratulations!
GEEK JEOPARDY RULES:
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Players: Up to four team members per round, you can switch out
as many players as you want between rounds. Each team is
permitted two substitutions per round at any point. An
accidental third substitution will cost the team 2048 points
in the single jeopardy round, and 4096 points in the double
jeopardy round. Any additional substitution will cost the team
10,248 points, regardless of the round. No substitutions are
permitted during final jeopardy. Closed book, no laptops
(Bruce!).
Team with the final highest (positive scores only [$score > 0],
not absolute value [!abs($score)]) score wins.
The 2003 Geek Jeopardy Categories:
Single Jeopardy: "Geek Cinema", "Fonts", "Kerberos V", Emulators",
"Firewalls", "Groupware", "DNS", "Geek Slang", "SQL", "WiFi",
"NASA", and "2.6"
Each single jeopardy category contains question worth 1, 2, 4, 8,
16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, and 1024 points.
Double Jeopardy: "Geeks & Myths", "8 Bit", "LDAP", "True UNIX(s)",
"CLI", "Not IP", "ARPA", "VOIP" "Mono & .Net", "GNOME", "In The
Court", and "C++"
Each double jeopardy category contains a question worth 2, 4, 8,
16, 32, 64, 256, 512, 1024, and 2048 points.
And of course the final Jeopardy question - Well, you had to
be there to discover that.
Adam Williams is a network administrator based in Grand Rapids,
but the network he deals with is all over Michigan, with a couple
of hundred workstations, running Linux and other Operating Systems.
Not only does he deal with domain issues at work, but he is also
the owner of the domain "whitemice.org". Adam has been a regular
contributor to technical discussions on our main mailing list,
both presenting and solving some of the most challenging networking
and configuration problems. Adam is known as an LDAP wizard in
the global Linux community and has written a classic piece that
explains how it works and what is necessary to get LDAP functional.
He is also part of the early core of organizers and nurturers of
KLUG and has served as Program Director for many years, providing
the content of KLUG's world class educational meetings each week.
The Eloquent Master of Ceremonies and originator of the legendary
KLUG GEEK JEOPARDY EXTRAVAGANZA provides stellar answers in search
of those categorized Linux culture focused questions.
BE THERE OR ELSE!!!
Brian Ritz is currently working in commercial logistics
and has been working with Linux almost exclusively as
a user of the Whitemice.Org network. He holds a degree in
Finance from Grand Valley State University and is KLUG's
resident expert on GNUCash. Brian is a KLUG Officer, in
the position of Treasurer of the Michigan Corporation and
IRS 501c3 Non-profit organization.
Thanks to John Bridleman for borrowing the Jeopardy console,
lights, and buzzers for the event again this year. William
G. Jordan, the KLUG Nutrimaster, provided an array of tasty
goodies for participants to snack on. The pizza was from
Pizza King and was ordered and delivered to the meeting by
Robert G. Brown. Thanks to everyone who participated in the
fun.
II. NEXT KLUG MEETING - TUESDAY 11/04/2003
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Linux for Beginners
by Todd Pillars
THE BEGINNER'S MEETINGS ARE HELD the first Tuesday of each
month. Linux basics and distribution installs are the
lessons of these evenings. If you do want KLUG's FREE help
installing Linux on your computer at one of these meetings,
http://kalamazoolinux.org/meetings/installform.html
Contact the KLUG Installmasters for more information:
installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org
- and -
ORDER YOUR SOFTWARE HERE: http://kalamazoolinux.org/bsware
Now is the time to get started! Linux is becoming a mainstay
of free software, free choice, dependability and power.
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THE STANDARD KLUG BEGINNER'S PRESENTATION - LINUX BOOT CAMP!!!
http://kalamazoolinux.org/presentations/beginner01.html
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Note:
As Linux matures as an OS, the educational needs are evolving.
The Beginner's Meeting format is changing with those needs.
It is difficult to cover all the basics in one meeting. Linux
is not just for CS experts and IT professionals. The "BASICS"
meetings are intended for those with limited experience with
Operating System's or even Personal Computer's. Your comments
and questions are welcomed!
Todd Pillars is the Chairperson of KLUG! His first PC
was a 1981 TRS-80 Model 3 2.03Mhz, 16K ram, 5 1/4 floppy
running TRS-DOS and QBASIC. In 1997 he started running
a web development company that hosted web sites with Red
Hat 5.2. He was named the Executive Director of Southwest
Michigan Information Technology Institute in 2003. SMITI
provides education and alternatives to proprietary OS's and
software. They supply technology to small startup companies.
He has memberships in KLUG, Chamber of Commerce, and GLIMA.
Admittedly a HUGE Detroit Red Wings fan who loves NASCAR too.
III. K L U G M A I L I N G L I S T S -
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Diversified mailing lists can be found on the KLUG web site.
http://kalamazoolinux.org/listserv/
Facilitated by - John Bridleman listmaster@kalamazoolinux.org
Sign up and participate to serve the Open Source community!!!
(240 plus registrations on the "KLUG members" mailing list)
IV. K L U G & L I N U X N E W S F L A S H E S ! ! !
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RED HAT SHIPS ENTERPRISE LINUX V3.0
Red Hat's latest enterprise operating system brings improved
performance and scalability to the server. Red Hat Inc. on
Wednesday released the next version of its flagship enterprise
operating system, Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0. This new edition,
based on the Linux 2.4.21 kernel, supports seven 32- and 64-bit
architectures: the Intel x86 and Itanium; the AMD64; and the IBM
zSeries, iSeries, pSeries and S/390. RHEL also boasts a native
Posix threading library and improved scalablity for SMP—up to
16 processors on Intel/AMD architectures.
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1360772,00.asp
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LINUX IS T H E ENTERPRISE OPERATING SYSTEM
"Linux's day as a mainstream enterprise server operating system
isn't coming. It's arrived..."
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1361917,00.asp
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LINUX V2.6.0-TEST9 RELEASED
"Linux kernel 2.6.0-test9 is now out. Changes include SATA support
and XFS and CIFS fixes. Because of the change freeze, this is a
fairly minor update. In the announcement, Linus suggests that
-test10 will be the final release before 2.6.0-final.
http://developers.slashdot.org/developers
/03/10/25/2159207.shtml?tid=106&tid=185
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FEDORA CORE TEST 3 REVIEW [FORMERLY RED HAT LINUX]
"In my experience there are a few problems and a few bugs that
would keep me from recommending it as an everyday desktop
replacement, but nonetheless, Fedora is an Operating System
(distro) worth watching... At first I tried upgrading my earlier
RedHat Linux 9 install, but decided, ultimately, to perform a
clean install..."
http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2003102101526RVRHSW
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WHAT'S COMPELLING ABOUT OSAF'S CHANDLER
Our product (code-named "Chandler" after the great detective
novelist Raymond Chandler,) is a Personal Information Manager
(PIM) intended for use in everyday information and communication
tasks, such as composing and reading email, managing an appointment
calendar and keeping a contact list. Because of the ease with which
Chandler users can share information with others, Chandler might be
called the first Interpersonal Information Manager. (The term PIM
was first used in conjunction with the product Lotus Agenda in the
1980's. Chandler is the spiritual descendant of Agenda (and has a
common designer in Mitch Kapor of Lotus 1-2-3 fame.)
http://www.osafoundation.org/Chandler_Compelling_Vision.htm
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A NOVELL LINUX SPECIALIST?
"Our Novell partners differentiate themselves in the marketplace
by promoting their areas of expertise or specializations; this
allows their customers to know what their skill sets are and what
they can reasonably expect these partners to provide for them. As
we embrace Linux, we would like to extend the title of 'Linux
specialist' to partners who merit it. Before we move forward on
this initiative, we would like to ask the Linux community for
guidance on what should constitute a Linux specialist. Should we
require certifications such as LPI and the RHCE/RHCT, or are
there other more valuable ways of demonstrating Linux competency?"
http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/22/
219212&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=163&tid=95
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PROGENY PORTS RED HAT'S ANACONDA TO DEBIAN
"According to this message from Ian Murdock on the Debian
developer's mailing list, the Progeny folks have ported Red
Hat's Anaconda installer to Debian. They have also written a
tool that "facilitates the creation of Anaconda-based Debian
installation CD sets". They are also engaged in other
interesting unification work, and hope to be able to allow
collections of managed RPM and .deb packages to coexist
side-by-side."
http://slashdot.org/articles/03/10/25/0554215.shtml?
tid=106&tid=110&tid=185&tid=187&tid=90
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TRANSLATED GERMAN WINDOWS TO LINUX MIGRATION GUIDE
"This Migration Document is also available. It has details on
going from WinNT to Linux/FLOSS/Samba et.al, with less detail
on RedHat/Ximian/GNOME and more on SuSE/Mandrake/KDE."
http://slashdot.org/articles/03/10/24/224227.shtml?
tid=106&tid=126&tid=163&tid=185&tid=190&tid=201
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IF I COULD RE-WRITE LINUX
In this NewsForge article the author speculates on building a
next-generation operating system aimed at 64-bit hardware. "Linux
is a pure 32-bit operating system written from scratch for 32-bit
processors. It doesn't suffer from any 16-bit baggage code. Now
Linux is being ported to various 64-bit processors. It will be a
while before all the code is compiled and optimised to take
advantage of 64-bit platforms."
http://lwn.net/Articles/55317/
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LG CD-ROM'S DESTROYED BY MANDRAKE V9.2
"The latest offering of Mandrake's distribution, 9.2, has been
found to not only be incompatible with some LG CD-ROM drives,
but to destroy them during the installation process. Mandrake
have posted information on their errata page and further
information can be found on this thread [google]. Along with
over 350Mb of updates within a week of release, it's not been
a good start for this latest release."
http://slashdot.org/articles/03/10/25/1737244.shtml?
tid=137&tid=147&tid=187
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UNIX IS DEAD: RED HAT
Enterprise 3 is based on the 2.4.21 Linux kernel and supports
x86, Itanium, AMD64 and IBM platforms. The family hasn't changed,
and will still include the Enterprise ES, or entry server,
Enterprise WS or workstation, and Enterprise AS or Advanced Server.
Enterprise 3 pricing ranges from $495 to $3,995, depending on
requirements and level of service. Red Hat has also announced
a new home office retail offshoot of the Enterprise 3 product
family called Red Hat Linux Professional Workstation which retails
for $99 and includes 30-day installation support and a one-year
subscription to upgrades and patches.
http://www.itnews.com.au/storycontent.asp?ID=10&Art_ID=15922
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GTK V2.3 WAS RELEASED TODAY
"GTK 2.3 was released today, and initial (not finalized)
screenshots of the new file selector are available..."
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/25/
1438240&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=131&tid=156&tid=189
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HOW MICROSOFT'S MISUNDERSTANDING OF OPEN SOURCE HURTS US ALL
This week, speaking at a Gartner conference in Orlando, Florida,
Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer said some fascinating things about
Linux and about Open Source software in general. And thanks to
those remarks and the blinding realization they caused for me,
I finally understand exactly why Microsoft doesn't understand
Open Source.
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20031023.html
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REVIEW OF MAC OS X V10.3
"The NY Times has a review of all the new Panther features which
states that the 150 odd features added are so good that calling
it a 0.1 upgrade is not fair. It finds the new Expose feature and
other security features (like being able to encrypt/decrypt the
entire home directory on the fly) extremely appealing. Gripes
include the $130 price tag and the (somewhat) lack of backward
compatibility."
http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/23/
1317220&mode=thread&tid=107&tid=179&tid=185&tid=187&tid=190
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ORACLE SEES ROSY LINUX FUTURE
In a presentation that underscored Oracle Corp.'s support for
Linux in the enterprise, Jim Enright, director of Oracle's Linux
Program Office took the keynote stage at the Enterprise Linux
Forum here on Wednesday to describe how the open-source OS helps
Oracle customers and the company itself.
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1361120,00.asp
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SAMBA MAN GETS SMARTEST PERSON GONG
Open SourceAndrew Tridgell, the creator of the popular Samba
software, which enables Linux machines to act as Windows
file-servers, has been named Australia's smartest person in
the ICT sector by Australia's Bulletin magazine.
http://www.linux.org/news/2003/10/25/0001.html
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LINUX ON THE DESKTOP: ON THE WAY, SLOWLY
"The question is, how do we get from 1 percent to 2 percent
(of desktops), not 1 percent to 20 percent," Friedman said,
during a presentation at the Enterprise Linux Forum Conference
and Expo in Washington, D.C. Google statistics show that 1
percent of its search requests come from Linux machines, 3
percent from Apple Macintosh PCs, and most of the rest from
various versions of Windows. A study released by IDC this
month noted small growth in both Windows and Linux on the
client side, with Windows maintaining more than 93 percent
of the client market.
http://www.linux.org/news/2003/10/23/0003.html
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GARTNER CLAIMS THERE ARE EIGHT LINUX DESKTOP MYTHS
We will list the myths Federica Troni, a senior Gartner analyst,
told the hundreds of PC system builders here at the conference.
* 1 Linux will be cheaper than Windows because StarOffice can be
used instead of MS Office
* 2 Linux is free
* 3 No forced upgrades
* 4 Linux will require significantly less labour to manage
* 5 Linux will have a lower total cost of ownership than Windows
because of available management tools
* 6 Hardware will be able to be kept longer if Linux is used or
holder hardware can be used
* 7 Applications will be cheap or free
* 8 Transferable skills
http://www.linux.org/news/2003/10/22/0004.html
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THE UPCOMING DESKTOP LINUX CONFERENCE
The upcoming Desktop Linux Conference will cover the current state
of the Linux desktop and where it's heading.
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7208&mode=thread&order=0
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PROS, PRIESTS, AND ZEALOTS: THE THREE FACES OF LINUX
"I have a hard time seeing the Linux Zealots as any different from
terrorists because of the nature of their threats. I expect one of
them--or perhaps a group of them--will go too far at some point
and do significant damage to the open-source movement..."
http://linuxtoday.com/developer/2003102200726OPCY
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CERTIFICATIONS A MUST FOR LINUX ADMINS?
Enterprise IT administrators holding a Linux certification are in
possession of a coveted confirmation of their skills with the
operating system. Experts say as more enterprises explore the
potential cost savings and efficiencies promised with a switch
to Linux, admins holding a Linux cert will be higher on the list
for new jobs, promotions or pay raises. "Bosses are telling
managers to get their Linux hats on, that they are going to be
using it very soon," said Ross Brunson, director of Linux and
Unix education with Philadelphia-based The Training Camp, an
outfit that trains and prepares administrators for certification
exams.
http://www.linux.org/news/2003/10/23/0002.html
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WHAT USERS WANT FROM LINUX
Enhanced system management capabilities, better security, support
for third-party drivers and more unity among the various
distributions top user wish lists when it comes to Linux. They
also would like to see more of their peers embrace the open
source operating system as it evolves into a platform capable
of supporting even the most-critical layers in the data center.
"One of the biggest hurdles that Linux has to overcome to be a
bigger player in the enterprise is FUD [fear, uncertainty and
doubt]," says Timothy Kennedy, a senior projects engineer at
content-services firm YellowBrix in Alexandria, Va. "As Linux
continues to prove itself in the enterprise, corporations are
becoming more confident of the performance and savings that
Linux offers. And with corporate support available [from
companies like Dell, HP and IBM], it provides some peace of
mind."
http://www.linux.org/news/2003/10/22/0002.html
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REVIEW: YELLOW DOG LINUX V3.0.1
"In this vast drive space, there is enough room for more than one
operating system, so I decided to install Yellow Dog Linux 3.0
(and then upgrade to 3.0.1 via APT) as an addition to Mac OS X
10.3 Panther..."
http://linuxtoday.com/news/2003102300926RVRHSW
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'FREE' OR 'OPEN SOURCE' SOFTWARE?
'Free' or 'Open Source'--Which Kind of Software Do We Need Most?
"Just because a project uses the GPL as its license does not
mean it is or is not 'open source,' says Linuxworld Magazine
editor-in-chief Kevin Bedell. He goes on to explain the two
main different approaches within the developer community to
this whole issue..."
http://linuxtoday.com/developer/2003102200626OPSWLL
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RESOLVING DEPENDENCIES LIMIT LINUX'S APPEAL
"Dependency handling is a huge stumbling block Linux has to
overcome if it hopes to gain wide consumer acceptance..."
http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2003102200126OPDTSW
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LINUX USERS REACHED THE 18 MILLION MARK?
What's the current size of the Linux community? About 18 million
users, if the statistical calculations of the ten-year old Linux
Counter project are correct.
http://counter.li.org/
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KLUG MAKES LINUX AVAILABLE AT THE LOCAL COMPUTER SHOW
A team of KLUG volunteers and officers were on hand at the last
fairgrounds computer show to tell people about KLUG and Linux.
They talked with lots of people and demonstrated Linux for many.
BS-Ware was readily available with nice labels and jewel cases.
To volunteer for a future show contact: showperson@kalamazoolinux.org
http://www.a1scs.com <--- Check schedule
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IN THE OPEN SOURCE SPIRIT KLUG CALLS FOR MEETING SUPPORT VOLUNTEERS
Please don't make us RANT about organization needs for volunteers!
We need additional volunteers to act as the "Meeting Firewall"
to handle Chamber access control and security issues. The Chamber
has asked us to safeguard their assets as KLUG members come and
go from the meeting room each Tuesday night. Bob truly does need
help with this function which requires that you get to the meetings
early and see that everything is locked up as the meeting attendees
leave. We have several other KLUG volunteer positions available
and many of these duties could be shared if you have an interest.
G E T I N V O L V E D I N K L U G N O W ! ! !
Please contact installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org for more details.
See http://kalamazoolinux.org/organize for position descriptions.
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THE WMU COMPUTER CLUB - YAKKO IS THEIR MAIN LINUX SERVER!
The Computer Club at Western Michigan University exists to promote
a better understanding of computers for both members of the club
and members of the WMU community. This goal is achieved through
various club projects, member presentations, Linux Install Parties,
and discussions at our meetings. Do you need help getting your
computer to function properly? Are you interested in installing
Linux? Do you just want a place to hang out and have a good time?
If the answer to any of those questions or any other question is
'yes' then you should come check us out. We welcome anyone
(regardless of computer experience) who is willing to share
whatever talents they have, listen to others, and have a good
time. http://yakko.cs.wmich.edu/
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KLUG SUPPORTING MEMBERS CAN GET THEIR PICTURE ON THE WEB SITE
Want your picture posted with your name as a KLUG Supporting
Member? Send the tasteful graphic file and your request to
webmaster@kalamazoolinux.org.
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KLUG NOW OWNS A NEW XGA VIDEO PROJECTOR
Adam reported that KLUG has upgraded the video projector from SVGA
to XGA!!! From 800 x 600 to 1024 x 768, it should boost presentation
viewing pleasure. This projector is well rated:
INFOCUS LP335 DLP PROJECTOR
1000 LUMEN - XGA - LP-0335-V + Extended 12 month warranty
Digital Light Processing DLP which provides sharp images under
variable lighting conditions.
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KLUG NEEDS VOLUNTEERS TO FILL SEVERAL VACANT POSITIONS
"Firewall" and Education Director volunteer slots are still vacant.
Please contact chair@kalamazoolinux.org for more details.
Volunteers are needed for Beginner's Nights and Install fests.
Please contact installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org for more details.
See http://kalamazoolinux.org/organize for position descriptions.
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KLUG NEEDS SPEAKERS FOR THE WEEKLY LINUX RELATED PRESENTATIONS!
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Contact Adam if you can give a presentation on any area of Linux
related subject or application. He would also like to hear your
suggestions for topics and possible speaker referrals. Do you
know anyone who is using Linux in Southwest Michigan and might
be willing to share their Linux expertise by making a technical
presentation? Professional, individual, or commercial speakers
on Linux accepted. Contact programdirector@kalamazoolinux.org
with your referrals and ideas. See the meeting schedule for open
dates. http://www.kalamazoolinux.org/meetings/schedule.php3
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V. K L U G C O N T A C T & M E E T I N G I N F O
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KLUG WEB SITE http://kalamazoolinux.org
MEMBERS AND GUESTS - COME JOIN US FOR A MEETING!!!
http://kalamazoolinux.org/meetings
WE MEET WEEKLY, EACH TUESDAY AT 7:00PM.
Our meeting site is the Kalamazoo Chamber
of Commerce office building downtown.
346 W. Michigan Ave. - Kalamazoo, MI 49007
http://kazoolug.org/meetings/maps.php3 <=== MAP!
CONTACT INFORMATION:
Kalamazoo Linux Users Group, Inc.
6749 South Westnedge Avenue
Suite K-288
Portage MI 49002
e-mail address: chair@kalamazoolinux.org
NOTE:
Effective January 1st, 2002, KLUG has been granted 501C3 status by
the IRS. This is a big step forward. Now all donations (including
hardware, services, cash, or membership dues) are tax deductible!
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