[KLUG Members] Re: Nokia Tablet For Those Interested

Peter Bart peter at petertheplumber.net
Thu Oct 26 19:18:56 EDT 2006


Peter Bart wrote:
> Peter Bart wrote:
> snip snip snip
>   
>> Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>>>> I really doubt you are going to get that functionality from the Nokia.
>>>>> Unless it somehow supports SyncML the only kind of sync you are going to
>>>>> have is rsync - which is *NOT* the kind of sync you are talking about.
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>     Okay, so whats to say I can't simply back up my files to my computer
>>>> from the tablet?
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> You could, but that isn't "sync", which is specifically what you asked
>>> in your e-mail. 
>>> I think the lack of a real suite of PIM applications is very telling.
>>>     
>>> Which is why I think the product is so lacking.  PIM functionality in
>>> Linux sucked until very recently;  and I can't see one of these little
>>> things running Evolution or Kontact (and all the rich backends they both
>>> entail).
>>>
>>> Porting EDS (Evolution Data Server) to a mobile device and then
>>> constructing a lite front-end you be very cool;  but I haven't heard of
>>> anyone doing such a thing.  The bugger is that your *APPLICATION* has to
>>> support SyncML;  so far basically nothing on the client side does [ on
>>> Linux ].
>>>     
>>> http://projects.o-hand.com/dates looks to be exactly what I describe
>>> above.  Cool!   Doesn't solve the entire problem, but definitely a step
>>> in the right direction.  Doesn't seem to mention anything about address
>>> book.
>>>
>>> http://projects.o-hand.com/eds
>>> "Embedded Evolution Data Server is a port of Evolution Data Server to
>>> use DBus instead of Bonobo/ORBit, with optimisations for memory usage
>>> and performance designed to make it suitable for handheld devices."
>>>
>>> Maybe there is some hope for Mobile Linux after all;  I'd pretty much
>>> written it off as a pipe dream.  We've had so many years of heat without
>>> light.
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> some talk about something called SyncEvolution as well as SyncML
>>>> <http://search.maemo.org/search?access=p&output=xml_no_dtd&sort=date%3AD%3AL%3Ad1&site=maemo-org&ie=UTF-8&btnG=Search&client=maemo&oe=UTF-8&proxystylesheet=maemo&q=SyncEvolution&ip=69.212.33.197&filter=0>.
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> Yep.  SyncEvolution works,  but doubtful you could get all the required
>>> bits onto a handheld.
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> If you google at all you will discover lots of moaning about the Nokia
>>>>> lacking even a basic suite of PIM applications, let alone SyncML
>>>>> support.
>>>>> Here is a statement "Yes folks, the 770 has no calendar syncing
>>>>> function." -
>>>>> http://darlamack.blogs.com/darlamack/2006/02/my_weekend_with.html#more
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>     It appears someone listened
>>>> <http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog2006> and
>>>> <http://oss.kernelconcepts.de/maemo/>. The is a pim suite as well as a
>>>> spreadsheet which should be able to be set up for expenses. The long
>>>> list of games does make me wonder about the toy status but look on any
>>>> download page for Palm and you'll see the same. You'd think no one
>>>> actually does any work with these!
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> http://oss.kernelconcepts.de/gpe/ still doesn't mention anything about
>>> sync.
>>>     
>>>       
>
> Adam,
>     Things have progressed quickly along this front. I got two of them,
> one for me and one for her. Well, okay, I made her buy her own. You were
> right about the rsync. I'm just backing things up to the memory card
> right now. I'm looking into some of the options such as
> <http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/> for my purposes but I still
> need a client on the laptop end. I do have an amazing list of software
> installed such as xterm, kismet, dsniff, the PIM suite, bluetooth
> utilities for file transfer, python 2.4, a dictionary called Sdict,
> samba, along with some other tools for wireless use and of course the
> requisite games. I must say it's taking a completely different turn,
> this is much more than a pda and requires a shift in thinking at least
> for me. I like it and it's replaced my T|X. I'll probably donate that to
> one of the Linux on Palm projects.
>     Thanks for you input, thought you might be interested in an update.
> Peter
>   




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