[KLUG Members] Using WINE with Java

bill bill at billtron.com
Tue Nov 6 14:54:57 EST 2007


On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 14:23, Michael Lueck wrote:
> Anthony Mattas wrote:
> > If the app is Java, you should not need to use wine at all, make
> sure 
> > you have JRE6 installed in Suse, and the the Window Manager supports
> Java.
> 
> Except I dare say the program's installer is not written in Java...
> thus another can of worms to get the installer cranked up.
> 
> Bill, I have only run one application via Wine: Lotus Notes 4.6.x. I
> had a package of Notes already. The packaging system I am using on
> Windows is similar to RPM or DPKG for purposes of this 
> conversation. Anyway, I knew exactly what files and registry keys were
> required to get Notes working on a clean install of Windows... or
> Wine. So with minimal tinkering I ended up with success.
> 
> That was running with the Wine that came with Ubuntu 5.10 as best as I
> can recall. It has been a while.
> 
> So not only are you fishing to run Java JRE via Wine, then the
> application itself. I know Java comes in a fancy MSI package these
> days... a rather complex curve ball for Wine to handle. Obviously I 
> have no idea what installer technology the actual application throws
> into the mix.
> 
> As for running the application with Java directly on Linux... that
> assumes you are able to get the application out of the installer
> wrapper. Most likely the installer is a compiled Windows binary... 
> InstallShield or something of the like.
> 
> hhhmmmmm... I am contemplating that there is now quick fix solution
> for you to pick.
> 
> As a possibility, you could bring with a CD tomorrow evening when I
> will be seeing you. I would attempt to package it. Also verify that it
> is pure Java and not binary EXE + Java... which would require 
> Wine + Java rather than Java on Linux.

Here's an interesting wrinkle: I am not able to open the cd from within
SUSE.  Suse recognizes that it is a music/data cd, but when attempting
to browse the files, Nautilus crashes every time.

So, I pulled the install.exe off of the CD using a Win XP computer, put
the file on a Samba drive, and used WINE to install from that drive.  I
assume the install.exe is a Windows binary.  

Because the install kept showing me blank windows within WINE, I
duplicated all the install steps I saw on the XP box onto the "blind"
Linux box running WINE.  

I've used InstallShield myself to create install programs.  I don't
think this install program was created with InstallShield.

Thus, I -do- have the program installed.  At least, it seems so.  It
looks exactly like the program if I run it within a Windows box but all
the critical dialog boxes are blank.  It almost seems as if I need to
have a windows-based Java installed within the WINE environment to use
the running program.

So, you're suggesting you might be able to take the install.exe and turn
it into a RPM?  If so, I'd be happy to let you have at it.  So it would
be running native in LINUX via Java?

kind regards,

bill
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